do u think hcg(pregnil) could mess u up?

[DesiBoy]

Did a 6 shots omna250(sust) 1shot per week plus some dbol at 40mg per day. after the cycle did 2 hcg(pregnil) 1500 per shot once a week and felt shitty after done with everything. Strong Panic attacks appeared. Do u think its been caused from the hcg (it was my first time i tried it) I think I shouldn't take it at all I don't think I was shut downed. The only reason I am asking this is cause now 3 years later I am fully recovered and want to do another cycle but am affraid of what happend to me before. Do u think it was caused of the hcg. Appreciate any help.

[Njord]

Did a 6 shots omna250(sust) 1shot per week plus some dbol at 40mg per day. after the cycle did 2 hcg(pregnil) 1500 per shot once a week and felt shitty after done with everything. Strong Panic attacks appeared. Do u think its been caused from the hcg (it was my first time i tried it) I think I shouldn't take it at all I don't think I was shut downed. The only reason I am asking this is cause now 3 years later I am fully recovered and want to do another cycle but am affraid of what happend to me before. Do u think it was caused of the hcg. Appreciate any help.

It's hard to say what caused it, but I doubt it was the hcg. Did you do pct after the cycle?
Hopefully you will do better research this time and come up with a better cycle. 6 weeks of Omnas x once a week = pretty bad cycle.

[NoobJuice]

effective pct only starts with hcg - IMO it was a combination of weak cycle weak pct that shut you down. Go again but this time try eight weeks with test only since your still fairly new to the dark side and proper pct. nolva clomid and armidex - Phendo's .

[DesiBoy]

That should do it. I think I shouldn't put any HCG in the last PCT. I've heard a lot of people complain when taking it.

[GreekDiesel]

That should do it. I think I shouldn't put any HCG in the last PCT. I've heard a lot of people complain when taking it.

HCG = Here Comes Gyno! I like using hcg before pct to get the natty test production kick started but I have to take an anti-e with it since I'm real prone to gyno. I do have to say though that I blow some monster loads with this stuff!

[MaGiCJNG]

Is gyno an issue if you follow Anthony Roberts PCT?

[meathead320]

hcg IMHO, is usless as for as pct.

Every one thinks about the "T" part of the HPTA, but what you are really trying to do is get the "H" going again.

The hypothalimus is where it is all at.

If the hypothalimus is making GNRH, then your pituitary will make LH and FSH, and asuming you still have testes and you did not kill the leydig cells with hcg, they will be able to respond to LH.

Yes, hcg can kill the sensativity of the leydig cells to LH, as hcg is like LH, however at doses over 500 iu, 2x a week, the leydig cells will be getting too much stimulation, and that ruins them.

Add to that, that the testosterone being made by the testes (not to menton Estradiol) induced by the hcg is every bit as supressive as test injections are to the hypothalimus.

In other words, hcg does not do a damn thing for PCT at best, and at its worst it can ruin your testes.

hcg still has a use however, and that is at doses no greater than 500 iu 2x week while on a long cycle, or while on TRT to keep the testes from shrinking.

Better to keep the horse in the barn then have to chase him across 5 counties to find him when you need him.

250 iu 2x EW, is often plenty to stop atrophy of the testes, and not enough to hurt they ledig cells, as it is within the physiological range or LH your body produces. Any more than that and you are hurting yourself long term.

So, for PCT, running a SERM, like nolva, for about 3-4 weeks, followed with 1 week of an AI, like arimidex, and then being off for a good while, is often the best pct.

I would do this:

nolva 20mg ED week 1-3.
arimidex 0.25mg ED week 4.

Durring those 4 weeks I would expect to feel like crap, as SERMs are estrogens, and in the final week we actually drop our Estradiol too low while using the AI, just to prevent the built up back lash of estrogen, that could shut us down again from the SERM.

Once the E2 in my system was rebounded back to the normal range, about a week after I would be done taking the AI, I would feel good again.

Asuming no damage had been caused to the testes, and there were no non AAS related damage to any part of the HPTA, the hypothalimus would now be functioning fine and likely testosterone and E2 levels would be in the center of the normal range.