12 week cycle (Deca/Win/Primo) when to start PCT?

[Batlin MD]

Hey,

Just joined up and have a question on timing my PCT. I was recommened this cycle for cutting. My goal is strength gain and fat loss. I'm looking to build my strength and speed and get a leaner.

Here is my dosing:

WEEK DECA-DURA WINSTROL PRIMOBOLAN CYTOMEL
Week 1 200mg wk 6mg day
Week 2 200mg wk 8mg day
Week 3 400mg wk 10mg day
Week 4 400mg wk 12mg day
Week 5 100mg wk
Week 6 100mg wk 25mcg day
Week 7 200mg wk 25mcg day
Week 8 200mg wk 25mcg day
Week 9 400mg wk
week 10 400mg wk
Week 11 200mg wk
Week 12 200mg wk

I have Nolvadex and Aromasin to use post cycle. From what I have gathered I should wait 3 weeks post Deca to start PCT, but since I am stacking what about the Win and Primo? I have read that PCT is a go 14 days after Primo and 24 hrs after Win. Should I start PCT in WEEK 9 or 3 weeks after Deca in WEEK 12?

Lastly, after a 12 week cycle such as this is 6 weeks sufficient time on Nolva before starting a new cycle?

Thanks in advance!

Bat.

[Batlin MD]

Dosing chart didn't come out too well, try this:

Week DECA-DURA
Week 1 200mg wk
Week 2 200mg wk
Week 3 400mg wk
Week 4 400mg wk
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 8
Week 9 400mg wk
week 10 400mg wk
Week 11 200mg wk
Week 12 200mg wk

Week WINSTROL
Week 1 6mg day
Week 2 8mg day
Week 3 10mg day
Week 4 12mg day
Week 5
Week 6
Week 7
Week 8
Week 9
week 10
Week 11
Week 12


Week PRIMOBOLAN
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5 100mg wk
Week 6 100mg wk
Week 7 200mg wk
Week 8 200mg wk
Week 9
week 10
Week 11
Week 12

Week CYTOMEL
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
Week 4
Week 5
Week 6 25mcg day
Week 7 25mcg day
Week 8 25mcg day
Week 9
week 10
Week 11
Week 12

[admirals56]

you do no now after research that was not a good cycle

[admirals56]

winny did absolutly nothing for u at that dose

[Batlin MD]

you do no now after research that was not a good cycle

Actual this cycle was recommened to me and I have yet to start it. I am open ears to any suggestions. I do already have the gear just have been busting my ass naturally before starting.

Any recommendations on the cycle as well as the PCT timing. Thanks!

[shifty_git]

Thats a horrible cycle! For a whole load of reasons...

Dont listen to who ever told you to do that!

Pct should start 2-3 weeks after jast deca injextion.

[shifty_git]

Is this your first cycle?
Whats ya age and stats?

[Batlin MD]

Yes first cycle, I'm 33yo 230lbs 6'1 (large frame) I tore my rotator cuff and had surgery last February ('07), gained a few pounds last year but have been working it off via cardio combined with lifting.

I'm just now getting back into sports ie softball and football. My left shoulder is still weak muscular wise, the doc did a great job repairing the tendon, but its still not 100% as strong as my right.

This cycle was suggested to me from a friend who went through a similar injury as I did. He did this as his first cycle, I know now he does other gear for mass building. Getting huge isn't my main goal at this moment just getting my shoulder and the rest of me further than it is now and to cut in a little more.

I've been reading up on what I've got and to me it seemed like a valid cycle, I mean not dangerous or over doing it for my goals. I have access to just about all products out there and I'm in no rush. I know I should probably move my question to the other forum then for "which cycle/stack for my goal blah blah" but I'm still open to comments for my cycle doses.

Thanks again!
Bat

[admirals56]

i say u have the deca use it and since u can get everything get 2 vials of test c or e and run 300- 500mgs ew for 10wks and deca for 9wks. no need to taper or increase dosage i cant think of the word for some reason.

[admirals56]

pyramid i just thought of it after looking at his cycle for 1 minets lol

[Batlin MD]

I just called and can get Test-E (inj). So I should I just forget about the Winn and Primo then for this cycle?

Make sure I got this right:

TEST-E 10 weeks @ 300-500mg/wk
DECA 9 weeks @ 200-400mg/wk
PCT 3 weeks after last DECA

I assume 6 weeks of PCT correct?

[shifty_git]

I just called and can get Test-E (inj). So I should I just forget about the Winn and Primo then for this cycle?

Make sure I got this right:

TEST-E 10 weeks @ 300-500mg/wk
DECA 9 weeks @ 200-400mg/wk
PCT 3 weeks after last DECA

I assume 6 weeks of PCT correct?

Thats a better looking cycle.
Run the Test for 12 weeks, and the Deca 10 weeks...

Was the winny you were getting inj or oral?
Not sure where u got such low doses from in ya original cycle..

[Batlin MD]

I appologize about the winny info, I have a spreadsheat with all my dosing info, diet/food and weight training. I made an error on the mg for the winny when I pasted it into the post.

The Winny I have is Stanazolol 20mg oral tablets. I can get 20mg or 50mg Stanazolol tablets. I was suggested to stack this with the Deca at:
3 x 20mg tabs per day week 1 (60mg/day)
4 x 20mg tabs per day week 1 (80mg/day)
5 x 20mg tabs per day week 1 (100mg/day)
6 x 20mg tabs per day week 1 (120mg/day)

This might sound a little better than 6mg /day.

Sorry about that.
Bat

[admirals56]

that winny dose is very high. what are your exact goals for this cycle?