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    pct for test cycle

    i wanna do aromasin, clomid, and nolva for my pct.


    week 1-6 aromasin 25mg ed
    week 1-4 nolva 20 mg ed week 4-6 10 mg ed
    week 1-3 clomid 100 mg ed

    how does it look... would it be beneficial to have the clomid in there.. or would it be useless?

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    list your cycle, and if your gyno sensetive, and if you know how you bounce back from aas use naturally.

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    nolva and clomid are both SERMS,however, 20mg of nolva will raise your testosterone 150%.it would take 150mg of clomid to elevate that much testosterone.so I feel that nolva would be the best way to go for me.this information is found at the following.PCT by Anthony Roberts
    Last edited by crazyhorse1960; 03-04-2008 at 06:00 PM.

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    And here is an interesting cut and paste from pheedno's pct on the use of nolva and clomid. Read and make up your own mind:
    Now IMO, selective estrogen receptor modulators(SERMs) such as Clomiphine and Tamoxifen are selective to which tissues they bind too. Clomid being selective to the suprapituitary, while Tamox is selective to breast, bone, and liver ERs. I've come to this conclusion based on the comparison of studies on both SERMs. In every study showing benefit to HPTA from tamoxifin, the duration of the administration is 3-12months(This includes studies cited by William Llewellyn in his Nolva vs Clomid article). In studies showing levels of LH, FSH, and Testosterone checked after short durations of tamox, they were either insignificant, or their was an actual drop. I believe this is because tamox selectively works at the mammery(as well as bone and liver), thus taking longer for LH stimulation to occur.
    With clomid, benefit to gonadotrophin concentrations, LH, FSH, and serum testosterone can be seen in short periods of 2-6wks. Because of the apparent selective nature of the two, and given our usual PCT duration, clomid is by far superior at LH stimulation than Nolva. Now both is the wise choice for a couple of reasons:

    1. Nolva acts as the preventive measure to the estrogen flux
    occured PC while clomid is the primary LH stimulator(Even more so in the case an AI is not used).
    2. If your running a longer PCT, clomid needs to be discontinued after a while as it has been shown to desensitize GnRH, this due, IMO, to it's selective nature to the suprapituitary. In the longer forms of PCT, the clomid will be phased out, leaving Nolva and L-dex

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    Randy what ester of test was you running and at what levels were you running it at? How long was your cycle?

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