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    what would you recommend for PCT, and ideas?

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    Need Advice Asap

    you see my problem. i'm 3 weeks in to a 10 week cycle.
    Tes 500 a week, split into 2 pins every 3 1/2 days.
    Tren 100, EOD.

    due to Doctor's telling me not to lift for One Month due to the Exertional Migranes! i would assume i should stop taking the Gear? ( part of me wants to keep taking the Tes, try to go back and lift in 2 weeks and if i'm fine resume the Tren... but if i'm not fine i've wasted 2 weeks worth of my gear, and have set myself back another 2 weeks from beginning to train again.

    so if the smart decision is to stop for one month, which i think it is. what is proper PCT for my scenario..
    i originally was going to take clomid and Novaldex 3 weeks after my last pin, so should start it sooner? if so, what dosages and for how long, seeing as the cycle was only 3 weeks. i've heard some veteran's say you probably dont need PCT for a cycle that short, but i cant chance any kind of Gyno, or any other sides from no PCT, i already have both Clo., and Noval. on hand ready to go.

    as always any input on my situation is greatly appreciated.
    thanks again and keep Growing!

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    exertional migraines = BP issues from gear??? I smell a possible connection...or I'm just insane have you always had this condition?

    one month break is a long break...enough to terminate the cycle...which u should do...tren is pretty suppressive so at three weeks i would imagine some degree of shutdown

    it would probably behoove you to do a simple nolvadex /clomid PCT for 4 weeks..since u have these compounds, it can't hurt to err on the safe side

    Going back to my first point, if you want to try, go back to the gym after a week of discontinuing the gear and if you don't get a migraine, then it's probably related to the gear, which means next time you start, use ancillaries to control water retention and drink adequate water to lessen the viscosity of the blood

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane View Post
    exertional migraines = BP issues from gear??? I smell a possible connection...or I'm just insane have you always had this condition?

    one month break is a long break...enough to terminate the cycle...which u should do...tren is pretty suppressive so at three weeks i would imagine some degree of shutdown

    it would probably behoove you to do a simple nolvadex /clomid PCT for 4 weeks..since u have these compounds, it can't hurt to err on the safe side

    Going back to my first point, if you want to try, go back to the gym after a week of discontinuing the gear and if you don't get a migraine, then it's probably related to the gear, which means next time you start, use ancillaries to control water retention and drink adequate water to lessen the viscosity of the blood
    i have heard the Tren is bad on BP, i was thinking, like you said a month is a long time, should i continue to take the Tes cyp. and rest another week and try to W/O again next Monday, or would you just kill this cycle, and start back up next month?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeefan View Post
    i have heard the Tren is bad on BP, i was thinking, like you said a month is a long time, should i continue to take the Tes cyp. and rest another week and try to W/O again next Monday, or would you just kill this cycle, and start back up next month?
    what kind of ancillaries should i take when i start back up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeefan View Post
    i have heard the Tren is bad on BP, i was thinking, like you said a month is a long time, should i continue to take the Tes cyp. and rest another week and try to W/O again next Monday, or would you just kill this cycle, and start back up next month?
    Kill it and do PCT

    Got your PM, will answer here:

    to minimize water bloat and BP issues next cycle, you must control fluid retention and blood viscosity (from increased red blood cell production and enhanced nutrient transport, etc...)

    - take AIs like adex to control estrogen, which will lessen bloat, hence BP
    - drink adequate water to improve blood thickness and reduce water bloat (yes, sometimes you need to drink more water to hold less water!)
    - In extreme cases, you may donate/extract blood in order to thin it out and prevent BP issues and viscosity, which is hard on the heart
    - avoid stimulants like caffeine, ephedrine and drugs like clen

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane View Post
    Kill it and do PCT

    Got your PM, will answer here:

    to minimize water bloat and BP issues next cycle, you must control fluid retention and blood viscosity (from increased red blood cell production and enhanced nutrient transport, etc...)

    - take AIs like adex to control estrogen, which will lessen bloat, hence BP
    - drink adequate water to improve blood thickness and reduce water bloat (yes, sometimes you need to drink more water to hold less water!)
    - In extreme cases, you may donate/extract blood in order to thin it out and prevent BP issues and viscosity, which is hard on the heart
    - avoid stimulants like caffeine, ephedrine and drugs like clen
    so you would take some clomid/nov., while on the cycle? how much and how often if you dont mind me asking?

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    NO! that's not what I meant

    nolva is not an AI, it's a SERM and clomid is a weaker SERM... nolva should be taken in a non tren /deca cycle to prevent gyno

    AIs are adex,letro,aromasin and to some degree proviron

    and if you're gonna have tren in your cycle, you better have prolactin inhibitors like bromo or caber

    definitely don't start another cycle till you know these disctinctions like the back of your hand bro

    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane View Post
    NO! that's not what I meant

    nolva is not an AI, it's a SERM and clomid is a weaker SERM... nolva should be taken in a non tren /deca cycle to prevent gyno

    AIs are adex,letro,aromasin and to some degree proviron

    and if you're gonna have tren in your cycle, you better have prolactin inhibitors like bromo or caber

    definitely don't start another cycle till you know these disctinctions like the back of your hand bro

    cheers
    Agreed.

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