On cycle HCG question

[burnin69]

Im running a 12 week test cycle with Dbol for the first 4 weeks. Ive ran HCG previously at small amounts (250 IU) through the whole cycle with great results. I hear alot of people say they start the HCG at alot of different points in there cycle; week 4, half way through the cycle, last couple weeks only. I was thinking of waiting till week 4 when I stop the Dbol but wanted to read what you guys think...

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

IMHO, i think hcg during cycle is only warranted when you start noticing a significant degree of testicular atrophy mid cycle... a 12 weeks cycle like yours will likely cause slight but not that big an atrophy... I always take my hcg 2-3 wks at the end of a cycle with great results...and that's after like a really long 20+ weeker..

you wanted my opinion, you got it
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[Swifto]

IMHO, i think hcg during cycle is only warranted when you start noticing a significant degree of testicular atrophy mid cycle... a 12 weeks cycle like yours will likely cause slight but not that big an atrophy... I always take my hcg 2-3 wks at the end of a cycle with great results...and that's after like a really long 20+ weeker..

you wanted my opinion, you got it
cheers

He's either shutdown, or not. 12 weeks of Testosterone use combined with Dbol will cause HPTA shutdown.

IMO, HCG is warranted when shutdown for more than 6-8 weeks. Or the use of 19-Nor's.

125-250ius 2-3 times weekly is what worked for me very well.

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

^^^ I completely agree with your protocol... but as to my comment, with all due respect tho, i am not using "HPTA shut down" and "testicular atrophy" interchangeably (nor did i mention the former)...they're related phenomena but not the same...the longer you're shut down, the more time you give your testes to atrophy from inactivity... and that sensitivity varies from person to person...

cheers

[burnin69]

thanks guys!!! I think I'll stick to week 4.