Not sure I follow this but going to try.....!!!

[J-Dogg]

This is a sample cycle I'm thinking, not mine but looking to tweek the PCT.

Week 1 to 13: 10mg Nolvadex daily
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ weekly
Week 1 to 10: 500mg TEST weekly
Week 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
Week 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Week 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily

Now with Nova being a SERM, would you want to just keep that on hand incase nips get sore and run Letro DURING weeks 1-10 as it's a AI? Seems that would keep the test from converting and keep the estrogen levels down? Or does the real converting not start untill later in the cycle?

Week 8, would HCG be a good idea to get natty test levels back?

Nova/Clomid together. They are both SERMs, Nova substaintially stronger of the 2. Is the clomid pointless?

Just from what I gather for PCT:

Week 2-10 2.5mgs letro
Week 9-10 500 IU HCG every 5 days (2 shots)
Week 10-11 40mgs Nova (20mgs/2/daily)
Week 11-14 20mgs Nova

Thanks for any help! Seems to be a lot of different info around.

[warchild]

you need to run eq longer the 10 weeks. also you dont need nolv untill your cycle is over or you are getting sides

[J-Dogg]

How long would you reccomend running EQ?

Spot on with the Nova though, that's what I was assuming.

I want to run a AI though the cycle to be safe as well, I'm fine if lowering the estorgen in my body hinders my gains a little. I'm not trying to be Kevin Levrone, just put on some solid pounds.

[sorel_C]

How long would you reccomend running EQ?

Spot on with the Nova though, that's what I was assuming.

I want to run a AI though the cycle to be safe as well, I'm fine if lowering the estorgen in my body hinders my gains a little. I'm not trying to be Kevin Levrone, just put on some solid pounds.

if your not getting ready for a show,, theres no need to do an AI all the way through,, just listen to your body it will tell you if you need one and when,, bringing estro too low can be counter productive while trying to gain muscle

[J-Dogg]

if your not getting ready for a show,, theres no need to do an AI all the way through,, just listen to your body it will tell you if you need one and when,, bringing estro too low can be counter productive while trying to gain muscle

I'd rather be safe and have it be counter productive. I want the estrogen as low as possible just to be safe. Tits don't look good on me.

I would rather miss out on 5lbs of muscle than risk it. This is just a moderate cycle, not really anything I'm trying to blow up on anyway.

[Swifto]

this is a sample cycle i'm thinking, not mine but looking to tweek the pct.

Week 1 to 13: 10mg nolvadex daily
week 1 to 10: 400mg of eq weekly
week 1 to 10: 500mg test weekly
week 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
week 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
week 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily

cycle
wk 1-12 test enan 250-500mg/wk
wk 1-14 eq 400-600mg/wk
wk 1-12 hcg 125-250ius/e3d
wk 1-14 arimidex 0.5mg/eod


now with nova being a serm, would you want to just keep that on hand incase nips get sore and run letro during weeks 1-10 as it's a ai? dont use letro, arimidex will suffice. Seems that would keep the test from converting and keep the estrogen levels down? Or does the real converting not start untill later in the cycle?

Week 8, would hcg be a good idea to get natty test levels back? run it all the way through. Then bump to 250-500ius 10-15 days before pct.

Nova/clomid together. They are both serms, nova substaintially stronger of the 2. Is the clomid pointless? bullshit. Clomid is more effective imho. 25-50mg/ed is what i use, for 5-6 weeks. No more.

just from what i gather for pct:

Week 2-10 2.5mgs letro
week 9-10 500 iu hcg every 5 days (2 shots)
week 10-11 40mgs nova (20mgs/2/daily)
week 11-14 20mgs nova

pct
wk 1-6 clomid 25-50mg/ed
wk 1-6 torm 60-120mg/ed
wk 1-6 aromasin 25mg/eod (if needed)

thanks for any help! Seems to be a lot of different info around.

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