Proviron Vs Aromasin

[PhillyFan]

What is a preferred PCT.

6 weeks 20mg Nolva +
4 weeks 50mg Proviron OR 50mg Aromasin

Cycle is Test E for 10 weeks.

Opinions?

[stallion_1]

id use proviron

[tadpoleboyy]

aromasin. Proviron is suppressive, weak as shit, make you bald, and costs more.

[Swifto]

aromasin. Proviron is suppressive, weak as shit, make you bald, and costs more.

How do you know Proviron is "suppressive" as all the research done on it points in the other direction...

I've used it during PCT and it has aided me. So do many others.

Its weak (I found), yes.

[PhillyFan]

What about hair loss?

Also, on a popular gear site I see it as very inexpensive compaerd to Aromasin. ($80 for 4 weeks Vs over $350 for 4 weeks)?

[graeme87]

How do you know Proviron is "suppressive" as all the research done on it points in the other direction...

I've used it during PCT and it has aided me. So do many others.

Its weak (I found), yes.

I like it too and it's great for sex drive.

[PhillyFan]

Would fincar help prevent hair loss?
What about what I see regarding cost of proviron looks LESS expensive than aromasin?
"Supressive" to nat test production?

[hugovsilva]

No price talk here please.

As for your questions:

- Proviron has shown in studies not to be supressive
- Proviron, despite being a dht derivate does not cause hairloss because at normal dosages it does not reach the AR being deactivated by many other pathways (shbg, aromatase. 17hd, etc...), that is why proviron does not cause any anabolic effect. Even if it caused hairloss finasteride would be useless as proviron is already dht.
- proviron does not help bring your test levels up, it just disguises the symptoms of low test. Aromasin actually brings your test levels up.
- Proviron is a very weak AI to be used in pct unlike aromasin.

To make it short: Aromasin is a must in any pct as for proviron it can help with libido and increasing free test levels, it will not cause you to produce more test.

[PhillyFan]

Even if it caused hairloss finasteride would be useless as proviron is already dht.

So why does finasteride so nothing?

[tadpoleboyy]

finasteride prevents testosterones conversion into the more androgenic DHT. Proviron is already DHT, no conversion needed

[PhillyFan]

So to summarze a good PTC following:
1-10 Test E
1-10 .25 Arimidex EOD

IS .......

6 weeks of Nolva 20mg ED
4 weeks of Aromasin 50mg ED


would

[TheOneWithout]

aromasin. Proviron is suppressive, weak as shit, make you bald, and costs more.

I read that Aromasin also can cause hair loss...

No price talk here please.

As for your questions:

- Proviron has shown in studies not to be supressive
- Proviron, despite being a dht derivate does not cause hairloss because at normal dosages it does not reach the AR being deactivated by many other pathways (shbg, aromatase. 17hd, etc...), that is why proviron does not cause any anabolic effect. Even if it caused hairloss finasteride would be useless as proviron is already dht.
- proviron does not help bring your test levels up, it just disguises the symptoms of low test. Aromasin actually brings your test levels up.
- Proviron is a very weak AI to be used in pct unlike aromasin.

To make it short: Aromasin is a must in any pct as for proviron it can help with libido and increasing free test levels, it will not cause you to produce more test.

So lets say I suffer from bad libido and decide to use Aromasin, will it only help during the cycle or will it raise my hormone levels to an average value for the rest of my life? (I'm not taking any AS).

["Maximus"]

...So lets say I suffer from bad libido and decide to use Aromasin, will it only help during the cycle or will it raise my hormone levels to an average value for the rest of my life? (I'm not taking any AS).

Yes... only during cycle. It won't raise levels avg. values for rest of life; if that would've been the case, then there would've been no need for viagra, cialis... don't you agree?

[RapaciousShark]

aromasin does cause hair loss, worse than any other AI in my experience.

[Vitor Ennnergy]

No price talk here please.

As for your questions:

- Proviron has shown in studies not to be supressive
- Proviron, despite being a dht derivate does not cause hairloss because at normal dosages it does not reach the AR being deactivated by many other pathways (shbg, aromatase. 17hd, etc...), that is why proviron does not cause any anabolic effect. Even if it caused hairloss finasteride would be useless as proviron is already dht.
- proviron does not help bring your test levels up, it just disguises the symptoms of low test. Aromasin actually brings your test levels up.
- Proviron is a very weak AI to be used in pct unlike aromasin.

To make it short: Aromasin is a must in any pct as for proviron it can help with libido and increasing free test levels, it will not cause you to produce more test.

excellent post man !

[RapaciousShark]

and 50mg aromasin a day is twice what you should be taking. Way too much

[SNOBRDR]

Proviron made me have a hard on all day the whole time i was on it and caused a substantial amount of hair loss. would aromasin do the same?

[SNOBRDR]

is there another estrogen suicide that does not scalp you?

[dcf88]

Ok so here goes it.....

I'm just reading around getting everything ready for my first cycle, but a couple buddy's of mine had some input on what my cycle should consist of. I don't really know what to think of it its not what i think i should do so I am asking for help.

Stats: Age 21
Weight: 190
Training: 5 years non-stop

They guys said i should do Test E 500mg/2x weekly Monday/Thursday Night.
Thats sounds good but they say i should only do one bottle just like a 6 week cycle?

As far as PCT they said Tribulus and some other test boosters?
That doesn't sound good if I am doing this i wanna do it right!

How hard is it to get your hands on Arimidex or Nolvadex?
Is there any other PCT I should consider besides these two?
Also should I take a AI while on my cycle even though its my first one and its a Test E only cycle?