Helllo all, kind regards on being members on this great forum. Rite well here goes, now ive finally got some time to myself and im not eating lol ive decided to do a bit more research to what i already know on my pct. Im currently in week 6 of this bulking cycle listed below, im just about to stop the prop and dbol, and i frontloaded everything in week one too.
Weeks 1-12 Test E 500mg/week
Weeks 1-10 Deca 550mg/week
Weeks 1-10 EQ 600mg/week
Weeks 1-6 Dbol 50mg/Day
Weeks 1-6 Test P 100mg EOD.
Heres my not so detailed at the moment training log lol http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=325807
gains are going well up from 172 to 206 already its fairly solid not that much water retention or bloat, im at around 10% bf, you can still see all my abs, and on my V you can see veins aswell as my shoulders and bis. strengths good, hit a PB of 140kg (308lbs) for 6 reps deadlifting yesterday, not bad for a 20 yr old. im not so much aiming for strength though, more aiming for 3-4 good sets of 8-15 reps, feeling the muscle work, obviously progressing in weight as each set goes by. I train each bodypart with around 6 exercises, abs twice a week and cardio 2 times a week for 40mins. Things could be better, obviously work gets in the way and i cant really eat at all on a 5hr shift but im pleased with whats happend so far.
Im going to do the anthony roberts pct wich is as follows:
Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day
and heres the link, anthony roberts pct
thats what the general consensus was when i PMd a few helpful guys and asked around the forum, as its meant to be good on suppressive cycles, like the one ive done (with nearly 2g worth of anabolics through my body per week)
My question to you all is regarding the conflicting views on either 1, starting PCT immediatly, 2, starting the HCG immediatley and waiting 14 days until the test e gets out of my system (as decas 21 days will have already been past)before starting other compounds, or 3 waiting the 14days and then starting everything.
No matter what people say about Anthony roberts, some think hes a bullshitter etc, some of his research (if it is his) is very intresting. He also notes his pct on focusing on restoring normal and hormonal testicular activity rather then focuses on keeping gains. I belive though that with a good diet (obviously a bit more calorie dense during PCT - thanks for the heads up tai!) you can maintain most gains, and it will only be water that goes, so my pct would be focused more on getting the boys and my hormones back to the norm.
His research on here (look at the link) suggests to start PCT immediatley. But then if the test e takes 14 days to get out of your system, and the total PCT is 6 weeks, theres only 4 weeks of PCT if the first two are wasted by waiting for the test e to get out of your system, as your body will surely still be relying on artificial testosterone as your LH wont be producing agian yet will it? Or is that because the first two weeks whilst waiting for the foreign hormone to leave your body is about getting the testes back into natural production.
So, id like to know everyones views as to when i should start my pct really. Immediatley like roberts suggests, or wait 14 days for the half lifes to pass?
Thanks for reading, and any input that may be given.
yours in training,
Big T.
p.s il be getting bloodwork done after pct too to make sure everythings normal, my test is back normal and that im still fertile. I do want to have kids when im older! lol.
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