6 Month cycle PCT. advice please & thank you

**Italion Stallion07** · 10-04-2008, 06:16 PM

hey everyone.

just about to end a 6 month cycle of 800mg t400 per week. On cycle i have been running

.25mg anastrozole ED
20mg Nolva ED
HCG between 250 and 500iu twice a week.
last 10 days been running 200iu ED ( start pct 4 days after hcg)

my PCT is

Nolvadex 40mg Day 1 ...20mg ED for 4 -6 weeks
Tormifene ... Not sure how to run it... suggestions?
anastrozole . 25mg ED 4-6 weeks (do you suggest i bump that up day 1 also?)
HGH and Slin as well

what do you guys think ?

**Italion Stallion07** · 10-06-2008, 01:56 PM

bump... anyone?

**Dukkit** · 10-06-2008, 02:02 PM

thats a long cycle at a pretty high dose.

i would run your nolva at 40mg ED for the first week or 2. then down to 20mg. i would also make sure to run a nice long PCT. you say 4-6 weeks. i would do at least 6.

not sure what Tormifene is.. can you elaborate?

i would also run clomid at a dose of 100mg a day for the first week or 2. then lower it to 50mg

if youve been running the anastrozle all cycle. then you shouldnt have to worry about bumping that up. cuz your estrogen levels will already be controlled mostly. so just run that at .25

though anastrozole is supposed to hinder the effectiveness of Nolva. so i would switch the anastrozole for aromisin for PCT purposes

run your HCG like you are

**Dukkit** · 10-06-2008, 02:04 PM

i would maybe throw in some caber. you didnt run an 19-nor but for PCT it really helps keep your sex drive up. which in turn can keep you from getting down in the dumps. especially after such a long cycle

**Italion Stallion07** · 10-06-2008, 05:34 PM

im going to grab some caber as well... dose? im thinking about 500/week.

toremifene citrate is a new type of serm like clomid but supposdly more effective with less sides. figured id give it a whack since i have a bunch of it lying around

**Roshambo** · 10-07-2008, 04:50 AM

(Toremifene Citrate)

Fareston is a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM), not unlike its more popular cousins Nolvadex and Clomid. Just as we see with Nolvadex, Fareston is used to treat breast cancer in post-menopausal women. It does this by exerting estrogen antagonistic effects in certain tissue, most notably, breast tissue. This is actually the same mechanism of action found in Nolvadex. This is why Nolvadex is often recommended to bodybuilders who are trying to avoid gynocomastia (growth of breast tissue in males). SERMs, in addition, have several other well known effects in men, which are not simply limited to preventing the abnormal growth of breast tissue.
At the hypothalamus and pituitary, estrogen acts in cooperation with the male body’s negative feedback loop to send a signal to decrease the secretion of LH, and when LH secretion is lowered, so are natural testosterone levels . SERMs, like Fareston, possibly act as an estrogen antagonist in the hypothalamus and pituitary, in order to increase testosterone production. Thus, although it hasn’t been studied to any great degree, it’s highly likely that Fareston is capable of increasing testosterone in the same way that Nolvadex it, as it’s androgenicity:estrogenicity ratio is 5x that of Nolvadex (1). It may also be better than Nolvadex for reasons that are of particular interest to steroid using athletes and bodybuilders.
Although anecdotal evidence on this compound is rare, bodybuilders who have already experimented with this stuff seem satisfied. In my estimation, it would seem to be a more potent and safer alternative to Nolvadex, for those who are worried about side effects. I’m also predicting that it may provide a greater increase in LH and therefore testosterone levels, in men when compared to Nolvadex (when an appropriate dose of each is utilized). This makes its use a strong possibility for PCT in the future, when studies on its ability to elevate testosterone is more fully studied and understood.
Fareston would also make a welcome addition to a cycle where Cholesterol issues may be a concern, or where something slightly stronger than Nolvadex may be required to prevent gyno.

References:
Breast Cancer Re Treat 1990 Aug;16 Suppl:S3-7. Introduction to toremifene. Kangas L.
Breast 2006 Apr;15(2):142-57. Epub 2005 Nov 9 Toremifene: An evaluation of its safety profile.

**Dukkit** · 10-07-2008, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by Italion Stallion07

im going to grab some caber as well... dose? im thinking about 500/week.

toremifene citrate is a new type of serm like clomid but supposdly more effective with less sides. figured id give it a whack since i have a bunch of it lying around

caber i would run at .25mg at 2 times a week. maybe bump it up to .50mg at 2 times a week just cuz the length of your cycle.

ill have to do some more research on this new SERM, thanks

may i ask why you decided to run such a long cycle. your pretty young right? mid 20s?

**Ernst** · 10-07-2008, 06:29 AM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

Swifto talks a little about use of tormifene use here (how to run it). I'll bet if you ask him he'll have more info on it.

**Italion Stallion07** · 10-21-2008, 12:35 PM

started PCT using A Roberts thread. everything exactly as he said plus 120mg toremifene citrate ED as well as 10iu slin and 7iu GH PWO...

so far its the best PCT ive ever had. im about 2 weeks into it and i feel like ive grown even bigger. of course once i stop the slin i will deflate a little but i think things are going very well considering the hormonal hell my body is going through right now