Pct for 200 mg test e 10 weeker??????

[tprop]

Im doing 10 weeks low test e for 200mg/week just for a boost and i know what pct should look like heres what i think please tell me what the dose should be or if its not needed or something.

PCT
aromasin 25mg
clomid 25 mg
nolvadex 20 mg

[lovbyts]

That's a lot of PCT for such a small Test cycle.

Why only 10 weeks? Should be 15
Why only 200mg week, that is a TRT amount. Normal cycle is 250mg 2x week.

Oh and of course, STATS? Goals?

[tprop]

My goals are to gain like 20 lbs but not one cycle.Its 10 weeks so no HCG must be used.Also im using low amount so i can get a better gain rate but still bulk more naturally later b/c i heard if you cycle like a normal 500mg or more you cant get to max genetics level as easily natural later after the cycle so im attemping to still go natural after this for about a year and try to get to 180 by the time im 27.(1st cycle)

Stats
25
150lbs
5'5
7%bf
6 years lifting

[lovbyts]

Still 200mg a week will basically put you at normal levels so it will only shut down your natural production and replace it with what you are injecting. You MAY see slight gains but mostly due to diet and working out.
Have you done much research on the diet section?

[Big]

Still 200mg a week will basically put you at normal levels so it will only shut down your natural production and replace it with what you are injecting. You MAY see slight gains but mostly due to diet and working out.
Have you done much research on the diet section?

Nope.
The average male produces the equivalent of between 6 and 8 mg/day testosterone naturally. 200mg/week is WAY more than anyone produces naturally, and I've known many who had great gains off of similar dosages.

[Swifto]

Nope.
The average male produces the equivalent of between 6 and 8 mg/day testosterone naturally. 200mg/week is WAY more than anyone produces naturally, and I've known many who had great gains off of similar dosages.

Agreed.

I wish I started off at 250mg/wk, not 500mg/wk. That way I may not have encountered acne and other sides associated with higher dosages.

250mg/wk will provide steady keepable gains and less water retention than 500mg/wk. You may only gain 10-15lbs on 250mg/wk, but you will keep alot more, given your PCT/diet are on track.

[tprop]

Nope.
The average male produces the equivalent of between 6 and 8 mg/day testosterone naturally. 200mg/week is WAY more than anyone produces naturally, and I've known many who had great gains off of similar dosages.

Yeah so even if my levels were like 10mg a day which i know is not it then i would make only 70 mg a week and im running 180 more mg a week because im bumping the dose to 250 b/c thats how my lab is with the mg/ml so thats more than double.

[tprop]

Agreed.

I wish I started off at 250mg/wk, not 500mg/wk. That way I may not have encountered acne and other sides associated with higher dosages.

250mg/wk will provide steady keepable gains and less water retention than 500mg/wk. You may only gain 10-15lbs on 250mg/wk, but you will keep alot more, given your PCT/diet are on track.

This is another reason im doing low dose.Then after pct im gonna go natural for a year or 2 too get to full potential b/c i know im still not there and thats because of bad diet for the 1st 2 years lifting.But I already learned diet from BB.com and read the diet forums so im sure i can get 30-40 lbs more naturally.

[tprop]

so anyway any pct i should change?!

[AnimalGear]

i'd do nolva 40/20/20/20

[lovbyts]

Nope.
The average male produces the equivalent of between 6 and 8 mg/day testosterone naturally. 200mg/week is WAY more than anyone produces naturally, and I've known many who had great gains off of similar dosages.

Sorry, my bad I guess I shouldn't believe what I have been told sometimes and have seen others using 200 week for TRT, yeah on the high side and my doc just put me on 150 week for TRT...
Noted and notes changed. Sorry to have confused anyone.

[tprop]

nolva only don't i need something for test production(clomid) and a ai(arom)?

[peachfuzz]

i dont believe 200mg a week will provide much...

-you have to account for ester weight
-you have to account for lack of natural production
-you have to account for rise in SHBG

what are you left with? double the amount of test?

run your post cycle and you will increase test levels the same amount.

MHO

[tprop]

anyone?please critique

[peachfuzz]

nolva 20/20/10/10
aromasin 50/25/25

[tprop]

what about test production?

[AnimalGear]

nolva will help with that too

[sheddin123]

I'm doing a similar cycle currently, except 250mg/EW 8 weeks Test. Cypionate. On week 6 now and gained 16 pounds so far. My planned PCT is Nolva 25/20/20/20 and 6-oxo too, that's all though.

I think that's good enough for my cycle. Simple cycle, simple PCT is how I'm thinking about it. I'd like some more insight on my PCT though too.

[peachfuzz]

what about test production?

both Nolva and Aromasin increase test levels.

I'm doing a similar cycle currently, except 250mg/EW 8 weeks Test. Cypionate. On week 6 now and gained 16 pounds so far. My planned PCT is Nolva 25/20/20/20 and 6-oxo too, that's all though.

I think that's good enough for my cycle. Simple cycle, simple PCT is how I'm thinking about it. I'd like some more insight on my PCT though too.

Your post cycle will get you by. but i see it differently. If your gonna use drugs on cycle. you need to use drugs for post cycle.

start a new thread if you have questions.

[sheddin123]

start a new thread if you have questions.

Thanks man. I have started a thread before but get minimal responses that help, if even help at all; Or I just get hammered about the cycle.