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    Equipose + primo + ??? + PCT?

    I'm about to start my 2nd ever cycle, which goes like this:

    wks 1-10: 300mg boldenon
    wks 1-7: 50mg primo ED

    My first cycle included Decca (200mg/wk) and Dianabol (25mg/ED) and lasted only 7 weeks. I noticed dramatic results (10lb gained!).

    I've read around some what on steroids and PCT but have noticed a bit of a grey area when it comes to specific PCT's for specific cycles. Now i've read (anabolics 2007) that primo has a milder effect on test suppression than most other steroids and is not aromatized to estrogen. Also that Equipose is mildly estrogenic. Can't really find out how extremely it suppresses estrogen, but would imagine it is mild-moderate. So now come the questions:

    1) is there anything i could include in this stack to make it more effective (bearing in mind my goals are to put maybe 5-7lb of muscle tissue on whilst cutting up a bit)?

    2) What PCT should i use (keeping in mind my goals are to put about 5-7 pounds of muscle on and cut up)?

    My first cycle (decca and dbol as above) included PCT as follows: 30 days clomid + HCG jabs for 3wks (i think at 2000mg per wk). However i still seemed to suffer from some negative side effects (namely fat gain, low libido and poor energy levels). I really want to avoid these side effects this time and would be very gratefull for any advice given.

    p.s. I thought of adding 10-15mg of Dbol ED to this cycle to give the muscle gains i desire but if its gonna flab me out i'm not keen.
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    stats? who is designing these cycles? I don't like them at all. in any event this pretty much sums it up:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

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    sorry big what stats do you require? as you know i'm new so you'll have to bear with me here.

    The decca/dbol cycle is a classic mass builder (especially good for beginners) and the primo/EQ stack i've read goes well together in anobolics 2007, a comprehensive book written by a specialist on steroids so i'm sure this info is good. As for the PCT this was suggested by one of my sources.

    thanks for the link man i'll check it now!!!

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    can you be specific on what you don't like about these cycles???

    Thanks

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    age?
    height?
    weight?
    body fat%?
    years training?
    as for deca and dbol , that's a rediculously poor cycle that completely suppresses your natural test from the first shot. don't believe everything you read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lee121 View Post
    can you be specific on what you don't like about these cycles???

    Thanks
    as for the cycles, deca /dbol should go without saying.

    primo is great if you run a real dosage, 50mg/day wouldn't impress me much.
    I don't care for EQ, as far as I'm concerned it taked up space in the syringe that could be used by much more effective compounds. if I were to run EQ it would be at least 600mg/week and I wouldn't run it without test.

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    age: 28
    height: 5.7
    weight: 74k
    body fat%: around 15%
    years training: 1 year

    Yeah as said my libido after that course was very low for a great length of time!

    So should i double every thing up and run primo at 100mg per day and EQ at 600mg per wk? what test would you say i should add? i looked at testoviron , but was unsure whether it would be a good choice.

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    To be honest I would run test e or c at 500mg/week for 12 weeks and save everything else for now. you haven't run a real cycle yet, and that's the best place to start.

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    So by test e you mean test enanthate ? and what do you mean by test c. Sorry Big i'm pretty much a complete amature, especially when we start talking bout test.

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    Like i said though my main aim is not huge amount of bulk, i don't want to look like a body builder, more an athlete, maybe like a strong middle weight UFC fighter (this is my sport)

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    Ok Big thanks for the advice pal. I'll let you in on how it goes.

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    good deal, keep us posted.

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