Cycle and PCT use of Letro Question- New User

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It's amazing. I've read 3,000 posts - maybe more- about proper roid use in the last 6 months, and I still have a question or two. Better safe than not.

.............a good friend of mine has a course of Dbol and Letro ready to go.

There's a battle in internet use suggestions that indicate, 1: To lay off the Letro until PCT.... and others say 2: no, start Letro during or weeks BEFORE a cycle, and continue Letro for weeks after the cycle. (Some text indicates Letro needs at least a week to build in your system...)

Using Letro before, during, and after a cycle sounds like the safest bet, but he doesn't want it to interfere with the Dbol.

That would answer just about all remaining questions, except for one about Dbol which would be off thread.

Any pro's out there that can suggest an exact cycle for the Letro? The plan is a 3 week go of the Dbol @ 20mg/day, and Letro .34mg....when? Less Letro during the cycle, and more before or after? What's the call?

Thx.

P.S. There's only so far he can split those 2.5mg Letroplex tablets down....

[T-MOS]

you have read 3000 posts and you think dbol/letro is a good cycle???

I call

no where on this forum can you show me that condones that kind of a cycle


please post your stats, and your goals for this "Cycle" and we can try to point you in the right direction

I would NOT take dbol only for a cycle as it will be a waste

give us: age, height, weight, bodyfat%, diet, goals, cycle history, PCT knowledge, training

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Let me reiterate... and after typing, I must say this post is dangerously off-thread.

I am reading 3,000 posts for safety. There's 20,000-100,000 posts for what people think is 'the' best cycle, and 20,000-100,000 people with different goals.

The goal here is small, compared to others..... just enough mass for defintion and that's it.....and as much mass gain in as little time as possible; work schedule requires times frequently with no access to decent weights and large quantities of food. Therefore, I was looking to see if a short cycle product like Dbol would be as effective as they say it is for short periods. If there is extra time in the future, perhaps some longer cycle stuff.

Now, what I've read clearly indicates that Dbol and A50 have the quickest gains in short cycles. I haven't read one post to the contrary....yet, anyway. In fact, in all this reading, the only time I see ANYBODY post xxx lbs mass gained in xxx time is when it has A50 or Dbol next to it. At least... in my reading. As far as comparing products, would other products be better than Dbol over 6,8,10 weeks? Sure. But would others be wasted if you can't hit the gym right in the middle of it? Etc, etc. We're open to suggestions.

Back to the Letro..... and this question would apply to any steroid I suppose.... Before, during, and after?.... different does?

I might add, with the thousands of posts on boards, and even the info on steroid dot com, nobody really posts exact cycle suggestions for different goals. People have to ask, and then they get multiple repsonses.... and really, the responses can come from anybody. You don't know if they know their stuff or not. Most say the 'like' using this or that. Like?? The 'like' something? It makes it hard to follow.

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I would never recommend dbol only, and I never recommend letro unless it's being used to treat a specific condition. I've cycled for many years and never needed letro.

[T-MOS]

Let me reiterate... and after typing, I must say this post is dangerously off-thread.

I am reading 3,000 posts for safety. There's 20,000-100,000 posts for what people think is 'the' best cycle, and 20,000-100,000 people with different goals.

The goal here is small, compared to others..... just enough mass for defintion and that's it.....and as much mass gain in as little time as possible; work schedule requires times frequently with no access to decent weights and large quantities of food. Therefore, I was looking to see if a short cycle product like Dbol would be as effective as they say it is for short periods. If there is extra time in the future, perhaps some longer cycle stuff.

Now, what I've read clearly indicates that Dbol and A50 have the quickest gains in short cycles. I haven't read one post to the contrary....yet, anyway. In fact, in all this reading, the only time I see ANYBODY post xxx lbs mass gained in xxx time is when it has A50 or Dbol next to it. At least... in my reading. As far as comparing products, would other products be better than Dbol over 6,8,10 weeks? Sure. But would others be wasted if you can't hit the gym right in the middle of it? Etc, etc. We're open to suggestions.

Back to the Letro..... and this question would apply to any steroid I suppose.... Before, during, and after?.... different does?

I might add, with the thousands of posts on boards, and even the info on steroid dot com, nobody really posts exact cycle suggestions for different goals. People have to ask, and then they get multiple repsonses.... and really, the responses can come from anybody. You don't know if they know their stuff or not. Most say the 'like' using this or that. Like?? The 'like' something? It makes it hard to follow.

The above statement in bold red is

We are telling you right here and now that dbol only is a TERRIBLE idea!

Yes you will see strength gains, and weight gains from dbol, that is why people use it IN ADDITION to other compounds, NOT by itself as you will lose 99% of your strength and weight gain after you are done with it. the weight you gain is WATER weight

We are not here to spoon feed you with what you should take, we are here to HELP YOU design and UNDERSTAND your own cycle

and you have YET to answer our questions and give you stats, so I am asssuming you are very young and pigheaded and just want to take what you want to take WITHOUT any concerns for doing it the correct way, so WHY come on here and ask for advice from people that do this for FREE because we care enough to help you do this the SAFEST way possible if you are willing to listen???

and steroids are NOT magic, if you aren't eating correctly, and NOT HITTING THE GYM in the middle as you stated, they will do NOTHING for you...WOW

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Yes, I'm getting emails from many about stacking with Testosterone for at least 12 weeks. Just going to have to find a definite 12 week stretch to know I can be in the gym properly.

But, no one has yet commented on Letro's use for PCT, along with a Cortisone blocker. Some people must be using this stuff.

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I commented on letro above.