First PCT

[krypto1]

Okay...i have tried to do alot of research and i have been told so many things i dont know what to believe but here i go

i am on my first cycle i am 21 5'10 and 135 when i started i am now 150 i have a super clean diet. i work out 4 days a week consistently i know most people will say you shouldn't have taken it. but its too late. i really am just looking for some help to make sure i dont have any horrible side effects i am going to be ordering Nova/HCG only thing is i dont know how much of each to take and how long im going to be needing to take it. i also dont know if i should buy the 10mg or 20mg how many pills am i going to need for the recovery phase. and how much U.I am i going to need of HCG 10,000 or 5,000 or 2500, 6500 there is alot. i am not looking for negative comments i just want some help getting my PCT organized because i am not close to finishing my cycle yet.


(stacked)
400- tren a week
500 mg - test a week


please dont say STOP IMMEDIATELY thats not helpful im really looking for advice here please.....much appreciated

sincerely
Drew

[T-MOS]

I will never understand why people come here looking for advice and then when they get the BEST most experienced advice, they don't care to listen????

do you remember this thread???

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=374570

Do you really care what you do to your body???

SO why do you care if you do the right PCT or not?

yea, i know you don't want to hear the truth, you are too IMMATURE for that, so you just want to hear that its OK to FVCK up your body for the rest of your life

well, KID, here is your PCT

good luck

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

[T-MOS]

you will look back and be REAL sorry you did this cylce !!!!

[krypto1]

so what should i stop now or will i still need to do a PCT? if i decide to stop now i am only 3 weeks in.

[krypto1]

why cant i Personal message?

[T-MOS]

you need at least 25 posts to PM

even if you stop everything right now you will still need to run an aggressive PCT as you are already shut down.

Why did you decide to use Tren A in your first cycle???

[krypto1]

Because it was recommend to me. i didnt know. so should i continue the cycle or stop now?

[krypto1]

should i just finish up with Test?

[T-MOS]

you said you didn't want negative feedback, so its kinda hard to tell you what you should do since you didn't listen in the first place.

What is your diet like??

what do you eat in a typical day and when

[krypto1]

Home made Yogurt in the morning with Musli grains,oats and dried pieces of fruit then a 20g protein builders bar and then about 2 hours later another protein bar and then probably a sandwich or a chicken breast with rice and a side of vegetables and i drink water with every meal..after around 3ish or 4ish i usally work out and then do my post workout drink which is a 50g protein shake then 30mins after drinking that i eat a substantial meal usally chicken/steak/pork with a potato or something with carbs and then its probably around 7ish and i have another 20g protein bar and then around 8:30 i have a main dinner sometimes 9:30 depends when roomates get home

[krypto1]

thats 7 meals.

[T-MOS]

thats 7 meals.

yeaaaaa, NO, thats NOT 7 meals,

that diet is not real good bud!!!

and DIET is EVERYTHING especially when you are as skinny as you are.

you need to eat SOLID FOOD EVERY MEAL, lose the bars and the shakes

you can have one post workout

you are NOT getting enough FOOD, and no matter how many steroids you take, you will NOT grow from what you are currently eating

this is why WE told you NOT to use steroids right now

you didn't bother to listen, you didn't go to the diet section and LEARN how to eat to grow !!!

until you do that, you DO need to stop the steroids, start PCT and READ and learn

terrible diet man

[krypto1]

you are NOT getting enough FOOD, and no matter how many steroids you take, you will NOT grow from what you are currently eating

i was 135 when i started im 150 now...its working. but okay ill eat more solid food and should i stop TREN? and continue Test? until i have my PCT stuff?

[T-MOS]

i was 135 when i started im 150 now...its working. but okay ill eat more solid food and should i stop TREN? and continue Test? until i have my PCT stuff?

i am inclined to say YES stop , run the test until you get your PCT together

what kind of test is it?

Please understand that until you have your diet correct, you are probably going to lose the 15 lbs you gained. so , until you can get to 180 naturally and stay there, you will only be wasting the steroids

[krypto1]

well im gonna stop the Tren..and continue the Test like you said...get my PCT gear.
i think its Test E but i might be wrong.

[T-MOS]

well im gonna stop the Tren..and continue the Test like you said...get my PCT gear.
i think its Test E but i might be wrong.

ok, thats another reason you are not ready!!

you really need to know exactly what you are putting into your body.

PCT timing is determined by the type of compound you are using

if it IS test E, then pct should start 14 days after your last test E injection

please find out for sure what you are taking

[krypto1]

what about the Tren? if i just discontinue using it will it be okay?

and what PCT should i take? Nova?

[krypto1]

its Test E for sure btw

[T-MOS]

I am not sure why no one else is responding in this thread, but all your questions can be asked here, no need to PM

[T-MOS]

what about the Tren? if i just discontinue using it will it be okay?

and what PCT should i take? Nova?

yes, you will be fine if you just stop the tren and continue with the test until you get your PCT together

get in the diet section and start EATING everything GOOD in sight. STEAK, CHICKEN, FISH, Eggs

[krypto1]

alright going to be buying HCG and Nova. thanks for your help...ill def be in the diet section. thanks agian.

[T-MOS]

alright going to be buying HCG and Nova. thanks for your help...ill def be in the diet section. thanks agian.

are you even going to read the link to PCT i gave you??

CLOMID, NOLVA

[krypto1]

i read it wrong i guess

Use HCG 125-250ius 2-3 times weekly. 10-15 days from your final Test shot, ramp your HCG to 250-500ius and ramp you AI slightly. This will cause a spike in endogenous testosterone and aromotase. We then use PCT to restart GnRH from the hypothalamus and LH/FSH from the pituitary. When beginning PCT, switch to another AI also.


wk 1-5 Clomid 25-50mg/ED OR Torm 120/60mg/ED
wk 1-5 Nolva 20mg/ED OR Torm 60mg/ED



i thought it was either or.

[krypto1]

is it okay to stack clomid and nolva together?

[T-MOS]

is it okay to stack clomid and nolva together?

YES, that is why I keep stressing it.....lolol

hcg is used during the cycle, clomid and nolva is used PCT 14 days after your last Test injection

[krypto1]

its cool if i dont use hcg during my cycle right now? or im just thinking too much now?

[T-MOS]

its cool if i dont use hcg during my cycle right now? or im just thinking too much now?

yes, you are OK not to use the HCG

just get the clomid and nolva for your PCT

[krypto1]

k thanks again for having to fix another **** up cycle =) even tho it was working nicely so far but i don't know i don't wanna **** my body up permanently but i do care about my body or i wouldn't be here.

[krypto1]

thanksfor your time and have a good night

[T-MOS]

goodnight

keep us posted

[borra]

Thanks T-MOS for the info, you helped me out too. I have been more focused on finding the right cycle and right PCT for me and ignoring the advice of getting naturally big first. I didn't realize why people said that until I read what you were telling Krypto1. I figure I will spend countless hours in the diet section and proper workout section. It was stupid to think that I could take steroids, get ripped in a few months and keep it. I am 33 and I first started working out with weights only 3 months ago. I got stupid because I thought I could get my sexy six pack abs, nice pecs, and decent arms in no time.

Thanks again for your posts

[Swifto]

Thanks T-MOS for the info, you helped me out too. I have been more focused on finding the right cycle and right PCT for me and ignoring the advice of getting naturally big first. I didn't realize why people said that until I read what you were telling Krypto1. I figure I will spend countless hours in the diet section and proper workout section. It was stupid to think that I could take steroids, get ripped in a few months and keep it. I am 33 and I first started working out with weights only 3 months ago. I got stupid because I thought I could get my sexy six pack abs, nice pecs, and decent arms in no time.

Thanks again for your posts

Good choice.

You need to build a base using correct diet/training for about 3 years first IMO. Then think about AS. You will regret using steroids if you did them now, 3-5 years later.