Is this the right PCT?

[molecule]

Doing my second cycle of Eq 600mg/week and Sust 250 EOD.
Total cycle 12 weeks
Status : Comeplted 8 weeks

I have been taking a shot of HCG 500iu every weekend since the week 1.
Also have been taking :
Provironum ED 2nos
clomiphene citrate - 1 tab every other day
arimidex - quarter tablet every other day

I am planning to take the HCG shots till the 10th week and then stop the HCG.

Since i am on Eq and and a sugested PCT of Equipoise 21 days after last injection i am planning to start PCT after 21 of the last shot.

The PCT will include: (4 weeks of PCT)
Provironum ED 2nos
clomiphene citrate - 1 tab every other day
arimidex - quarter tablet every other day
Sustain Alpha Body Lotion ( for increasing the Testo production)


Please suggest me if I am wrong anywhere. I am really confused about the PCT aspect. I dont want to loose the gains i get during the cycle beacuse of a wrong PCT.

Regards

[molecule]

Forgot to mention that I also added Oral Winny for the last 6 weeks. 50 mg a day.

[Mammon]

id run 100mg clomid and 20mg nolvadex ed for 4 weeks.
could back the clomid offf to 50mg the 2nd 2 weeks. i prefer to keep it at 100.

why are you running clomid through the cycle, about useless

[molecule]

Hmm! But in between the end of cycle and start of PCT there is a 21 day gap. Should i be taking any pills in this span?

[molecule]

guys i really need advice in here. please experts where are u?

[wackod2]

i can do 600 test/300 deca and never need anything during my cycle

but i would wait the 21 days unless you have a bad reaction

[CHAP]

Hey,I'm a new member . Thant is a pretty large stack your running . You need to buy the anabolics 2009 book it will take 3 days to get to you . Follow the instructions .

[CHAP]

The armidex is going to help you keep estrogen to a minimum aswell as you side effects . Also by taking it durin gthe cycle it will help you keep more of your gains . The reason I said that you should buy that book is because it is of my understanding that the Hcg tells ( sorry about spelling in advance ) the putitary gland to produe luitinizing hormone which then tells the testies to start producing testosterone again . this is also pretty much the same with clomid . I would also increase the armidex to at least 1/2 tab now to help keep those gains .

[molecule]

HCG does not tell the putitary gland to produe luitinizing hormone. It mimics the LH and hence the testies produce Testo.

[molecule]

So when u stop taking HCG the pitutary gland has to realise that there is no LH and then start producing it so that later the Testo is produced. This is the time u start loosing your gains. Thats the reason u should never use HCG after the cycle.

[molecule]

Chap i aint a veteran in here but i have learnt from my mistakes. Learnt it the hard way. Doing a cycle is very easy but doing the right PCT and maintaining those gains after the cycle is your true achievement.
I will definatley consider your book. Atlest a E-book!

[Swifto]

Doing my second cycle of Eq 600mg/week and Sust 250 EOD.
Total cycle 12 weeks
Status : Comeplted 8 weeks

I have been taking a shot of HCG 500iu every weekend since the week 1.
Also have been taking :
Provironum ED 2nos
clomiphene citrate - 1 tab every other day Not sure why...Clomid has maintanied endogenous LH in some individuals when on minimal HRT doses of Test for limited peroids. But I doubt thats why your using it? Anyway, it wont have that effect (IMHO) after 10 weeks at "250mg/EOD Sust"
arimidex - quarter tablet every other day What mg are the tabs?

I am planning to take the HCG shots till the 10th week and then stop the HCG.

Since i am on Eq and and a sugested PCT of Equipoise 21 days after last injection i am planning to start PCT after 21 of the last shot. Thats why its good to finish with an oral and stay anabolic for as long as possible leading to PCT. Or short estered Test.

The PCT will include: (4 weeks of PCT)
Provironum ED 2nos
clomiphene citrate - 1 tab every other day Mg?
arimidex - quarter tablet every other day Mg?
Sustain Alpha Body Lotion ( for increasing the Testo production) Sounds good.


Please suggest me if I am wrong anywhere. I am really confused about the PCT aspect. I dont want to loose the gains i get during the cycle beacuse of a wrong PCT.

Regards

bolds

[molecule]

Thanks

I am using
CLOME* 50 which contains Clomifene Citrate 50 Mgs
ALTRAZ which contains Anastrozole 1 Mg

I have planned the PCT as posted above in the first post BUT i am very much open for any change or to completey change it. My purpose to get my natural production back and retain my gains.

[molecule]

Swifto where are u?

[molecule]

I am also clueless what do i take in the 21 days after the cycle and before the PCT? Should any of the pills be taken? Its my real worry!

[Swifto]

Thanks

I am using
CLOME* 50 which contains Clomifene Citrate 50 Mgs
ALTRAZ which contains Anastrozole 1 Mg

I have planned the PCT as posted above in the first post BUT i am very much open for any change or to completey change it. My purpose to get my natural production back and retain my gains.

Take one tab of Arimidex EOD. That should keep estrogenic sides at bay.

You should IMO, finish the cycle (always) with some sort of oral, like Tbol, Winstrol , Dbol , Var. That way you can remain anabolic right upto PCT begins, not wait for X amount of days and risk losing gains when cortisol levels are high or higher than normal. My choice would be Tbol, then Winstrol.

[molecule]

SWIFTO

I am talking oral Winstrol 50 Mg a day from week 6 onwards. If i got your right, u suggest:

1) Stop the HCG in week 10
2) Stop the Sust250 and EQ in week 12
3) From week 12 to week 15 take the oral winny
4) from week 15 to week 19 take JUST Arimidex EOD ?

My queries are:

When should i stop taking Provironum? In week 12 or continue it till the PCT is over?

Should i ALTRAZ which contains Anastrozole 1 Mg ED (Is this the same content as that of Arimidex?)

Nothing else like Clome/ Nolva etc to be used on PCT?

[molecule]

waiting..........

[Swifto]

SWIFTO

I am talking oral Winstrol 50 Mg a day from week 6 onwards. If i got your right, u suggest:

1) Stop the HCG in week 10 You can stop the HCG or ramp it to 250-500ius 10-15 days from when PCT STARTS.
2) Stop the Sust250 and EQ in week 12 Yes.
3) From week 12 to week 15 take the oral winny Run it for the final 6 weeks until PCT STARTS, so yes, you'd be taking Winstrol alone for a bit.4) from week 15 to week 19 take JUST Arimidex EOD ? Yes

My queries are:

When should i stop taking Provironum? In week 12 or continue it till the PCT is over? You dont need Arimidex and Proviron during your cycle. Its overkill. I'd start taking the Proviron at 25mg/ED the day you drop the Sust/EQ. It will boost labido and lower SHBG. Take it through PCT.

Should i ALTRAZ which contains Anastrozole 1 Mg ED (Is this the same content as that of Arimidex?) Take one tab EOD through your cycle.

Nothing else like Clome/ Nolva etc to be used on PCT? Its fine for your cycle

bolds

[molecule]

Swifto you are the man. Just summing it finally as discussed above. Correct me if i am wrong.

Cycle week1 - weeek 12
HCG week 1 - week 12 [ 250-200iu per week]

Week 12 - week 15 [Oral Winny (50mg/day) + Provironum]

Week 15- week 19
Altraz (1 mg Anastrozole in it) of EOD
Provironum
Sustain Alpha Body Spray
Clen

NOT TO USE:
Clome
Nolva


Please conform. I am banking on you.

[Mammon]

no he is saying to use clomid and nolvadex for pct i believe..

[Swifto]

no he is saying to use clomid and nolvadex for pct i believe..

Jesus christ...

I've said it a million times. Re-read and re-read my posts.

Its all there!

[Swifto]

Swifto you are the man. Just summing it finally as discussed above. Correct me if i am wrong.

Cycle week1 - weeek 12
HCG week 1 - week 12 [ 250-200iu per week] 250ius 2-3 times weekly

Week 12 - week 15 [Oral Winny (50mg/day) + Provironum] Week 9-15 Winstrol 50mg/ED, week 12 through PCT Proviron 25mg/ED

Week 15- week 19
Altraz (1 mg Anastrozole in it) of EOD Nope. Use 1 tab EOD from week 1-15
Provironum Yes
Sustain Alpha Body Spray Yes
Clen Yes

NOT TO USE:
Clome
Nolva

wk 15- (When your sex drive is back)
Clomid 50mg/ED for 2 weeks, then 25mg/ED until sex drive is back
Nolva 20mg/ED

Please conform. I am banking on you.

Now leave me alone...lol

[Mammon]

lol...........

[molecule]

thanks swifto. I must be sounding like a snob but your advice really helped. Thanks a lot. I owe u one!

[molecule]

Swifto confusion again. Just clear it for me. I am clear with the oral winny till the PCT starts. But about the pills


Cycle is 1- 12 week
Just oral till the PCT starts Week 13-15
PCT week 15-19

The Povironum goes 25Mb/ED from week 13 right till week 19?

Altraz 1mg ED from week 15-19 (PCT), but should this be taken in week 13-15 also?

I was thinking of adding CLOME 50mg ED for the PCT ie week 15-19. Is this required as i thought it will get my LH up?
If yes then should it be taken in the week 13-15 also and at what dosage?

No NOLVA ?
Thanks for your patience.

[WARMachine]

LMAO...

Are you saying youre NOT running Nolva in PCT and that you ARE running Proviron during PCT?

[Swifto]

Swifto confusion again. Just clear it for me. I am clear with the oral winny till the PCT starts. But about the pills


Cycle is 1- 12 week
Just oral till the PCT starts Week 13-15
PCT week 15-19

The Povironum goes 25Mb/ED from week 13 right till week 19?

Altraz 1mg ED from week 15-19 (PCT), but should this be taken in week 13-15 also?

I was thinking of adding CLOME 50mg ED for the PCT ie week 15-19. Is this required as i thought it will get my LH up?
If yes then should it be taken in the week 13-15 also and at what dosage?

No NOLVA ?
Thanks for your patience.

Read my posts again. Its all there.

I'm getting fed up with you to be honest now.

I've said it and said it again and again...