Why so long for PCT?

[illwillogical]

I was just curious how many people follow the protocol of time off cycle= time on cycle + PCT?

I completed a 4 week PCT about a week ago, and I am wanting to go back on as soon as possible. I just feel a lot more motivated when I'm on, when I'm not on I feel as I am just maintaining.

So I was thinking of maybe taking another month off, that would be a little over 2 months off, then starting back up again. My cycle was a 12 week Test E cycle (500mgperweek) with a four week Dbol kicker (30mgperday) at the beginning. PCT was clomid 100/50/50/25 nolva 20/20/20/20 aromasin 25/25/25/25. So what do you all think about only taking a little over 2 month's to recover off of this cycle?

If I could get bloodwork done I would but I can't right now. How long does it take on average for your test levels to go back to normal after doing a cycle similar to above?

[nails4me2]

I was just curious how many people follow the protocol of time off cycle= time on cycle + PCT?

I completed a 4 week PCT about a week ago, and I am wanting to go back on as soon as possible. I just feel a lot more motivated when I'm on, when I'm not on I feel as I am just maintaining.

So I was thinking of maybe taking another month off, that would be a little over 2 months off, then starting back up again. My cycle was a 12 week Test E cycle (500mgperweek) with a four week Dbol kicker (30mgperday) at the beginning. PCT was clomid 100/50/50/25 nolva 20/20/20/20 aromasin 25/25/25/25. So what do you all think about only taking a little over 2 month's to recover off of this cycle?

If I could get bloodwork done I would but I can't right now. How long does it take on average for your test levels to go back to normal after doing a cycle similar to above?

the more time you take off the better imo...in order to not F your natural levels up for good which im sure you already are aware of..your question at the end about how long on average it would take for natural test levels to get back to normal after a cycle like yours has no average or set answer..everyone is differnt and so are there recovery times...example: I could run the same cycle as you to a T and same pct...but it might take me three months to recover fully and maybe take you four...all depends on the person imo..each body is different and reacts differently to each compound..that is why some people prefer Prop over E because it simply works better with there body...as far as feeling unmotivated while at gym if i were you i would just keep thinking about how much of a beast im gonna be once i start my next cycle and keep reminding myself that in order to keep myself healthy while i do this i need to give my body sufficient time to recover...you could also try taking some NO Explode or some REDLINE on your workout days..i personally do not like REDLINE because of the shaky ness that comes with it but when i take NO i get crazy energy and pumps..hope this helps out a little bit and good luck bro...

[illwillogical]

I'm gonna go ahead and bump this, I would like to hear some others experiences and opinions.

[Swole33]

basically are getting psychologically addicted. Guys always get a blood test- T test.. This shows you that you are not producing 80 year old man test..
Get a blood test or get a home testosterone test.
assess your goals- why are you taking gear? what do you need it for? if its purely cosmetic reasons time on = time off. If you are a professional athlete.. different story. You have your whole life to train ahead of you... Also do you plan on getting HRT? otherwise take time off between cycles. Run them 2 times a year. Done.. Proper post cycle and you will be able to F$%K any chick you want...(or wife)

Lets be honest- how many guys would trade having 6 pack abs for no libido? I take libido over abs any day..

[Swifto]

basically are getting psychologically addicted. Guys always get a blood test- T test.. This shows you that you are not producing 80 year old man test..
Get a blood test or get a home testosterone test.
assess your goals- why are you taking gear? what do you need it for? if its purely cosmetic reasons time on = time off. If you are a professional athlete.. different story. You have your whole life to train ahead of you... Also do you plan on getting HRT? otherwise take time off between cycles. Run them 2 times a year. Done.. Proper post cycle and you will be able to F$%K any chick you want...(or wife)

Lets be honest- how many guys would trade having 6 pack abs for no libido? I take libido over abs any day..

Agreed.

Time on + PCT = Time off.

Come off, then do PCT and get preparing for your next cycle.

Others tend to do more short burst cycles.

[illwillogical]

Agreed.

Time on + PCT = Time off.

Come off, then do PCT and get preparing for your next cycle.

Others tend to do more short burst cycles.

Ok, why? Just to get your body used to producing it's own Test again. What should your blood levels look like before you start again? I'm 28 years old, I don't know what other stats to give to find out what my blood levels should look like?

[Swifto]

Ok, why? Just to get your body used to producing it's own Test again. What should your blood levels look like before you start again? I'm 28 years old, I don't know what other stats to give to find out what my blood levels should look like?

Unless your on HRT, give your body a well earned break.

Its not good for your HPTA to keep yo-yo'ing up and down IMHO.

Go to your doctor and ask for a full blood panel. Including free/total T, estrogen, prolacting, LH, FSH, liver function, kidney etc...

There are some very good threads on here about bloodwork. Do a search buddy.

[jfalco]

Lets be honest- how many guys would trade having 6 pack abs for no libido? I take libido over abs any day..

With no libido, what do you need the abs for?

[incredible.hulk]

With no libido, what do you need the abs for?

so true

[Swole33]

i have been off for 4 months now... It sucks, i have lost strength.. BUT i can screw like a champ and am leaner than when i was on.. I am actually getting more attention from chicks..

taking femara 2.5 every night
clen 60
GHRP6 3x a week

[Swifto]

i have been off for 4 months now... It sucks, i have lost strength.. BUT i can screw like a champ and am leaner than when i was on.. I am actually getting more attention from chicks..

taking femara 2.5 every night
clen 60
GHRP6 3x a week

Letro at 2.5mg/ED....? Why?

[WARMachine]

I would also like to ask why you keep bumping old threads Swole?