HCG - How long after last HCG shot before commencing PCT?

**Maverick_J8** · 04-19-2009, 01:56 AM

Shooting 1500iu/wk, once per week, for the last two weeks.

First shot was last night. Second shot will be in 5 days time. Running 20mg Nolva alongside this for these last 2 weeks.

How should I do this, wait 1 week after last HCG shot before commencing PCT? That would also mean dropping Prop 3 days prior.

**Swifto** · 04-19-2009, 05:40 AM

I'd split the dose into 3 500iu shots. Although 1 1500iu shot will work.

I'd imagine E would be fairly high with a 1500iu shot.

How long are you running HCG ?

Yes, you need to stop HCG, then begin PCT. I'd run HCG for around 3 weeks with an AI.

**Maverick_J8** · 04-19-2009, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

How long are you running HCG?

3 weeks will be fine. Plan was originally 2.

Originally Posted by Swifto

Yes, you need to stop HCG, then begin PCT.

How long after last HCG shot to being PCT - 5 days? And obviously stop the Prop 2 days after last HCG shot to take in to account the 3 day half-life?

Originally Posted by Swifto

I'd run HCG for around 3 weeks with an AI.

I'll substitute the Nolva for 25mg of Aromasin .

**Swifto** · 04-19-2009, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Maverick_J8

3 weeks will be fine. Plan was originally 2.

I'd go 3.

How long after last HCG shot to being PCT - 5 days? And obviously stop the Prop 2 days after last HCG shot to take in to account the 3 day half-life?

I dont think it really matters on the HCG. I'd do the HCG on the same day as the Test Prop shot, then begin your PCT using SERM's/AI's 2-3 days later.

I'll substitute the Nolva for 25mg of Aromasin .

Run both. 10mg of each.

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**mrdieselone** · 04-19-2009, 05:53 PM

hi swifto ..i really like your approach to hcg use ive been taking around 125iu of hcg last 2 weeks everyday ..im doinf another 2 weeks before its end of my cycle ..im then going to run tribestan nola and clomid ..for pct ..do you have any other suggestions ??i would really appreciate it thx

**Maverick_J8** · 04-19-2009, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

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Thanks for that.

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Originally Posted by kimaesha

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**Swifto** · 08-17-2009, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by DEE151

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**DEE151** · 08-17-2009, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

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O i see. hey i got a question for you?
if you have hcg do you need clom/nolva for pct still or just use hcg and nolva for pct?
i notice wen ppl run hcg they only use nolva.
if they dont have hcg then they use clom/nolva why is this?

**Swifto** · 08-17-2009, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by DEE151

O i see. hey i got a question for you?
if you have hcg do you need clom/nolva for pct still or just use hcg and nolva for pct?
i notice wen ppl run hcg they only use nolva.
if they dont have hcg then they use clom/nolva why is this?

Yes, you'll still require Clomid/Tamox IMHO.

Tamoxifen has been shown to help with some leydig cell desensitisation (17-OHP) that HCG may bring. However, HCG (used correctly) wont cause desensitisation. Used conservatively, this wont happen.

HCG is needed to maintain testiculas size and function when the testes are not being used (on cycle). They can become atrophied if not stimulated.

Clomid and Tamox are then used to stimulate the hypothalamus and pituitary into secreting the bodies own LH, FSH and then signal the testes to produce testosterone .

HCG is best used "on cycle".

Some users can get away with using only one SERM post cycle. Be it, Clomid, Tamox or Tore. I prefer a combination. But using HCG "on cycle" shouldnt mean the user can get away with less IMHO.