proposed pct

[busaboy27]

running

1-12 weeks test enanthate 600mg week
1-6 weeks d-bol 50mg ed
6-12 tren e. dose have not decided


so much info this is wht i came up with


hcg week 4-14 at 250iu every couple days run 2 weeks after my last shot of test
after last shot hcg run nolvadex 20 mg for 4 weeks?
am i missing something here ? clomd? arimidex ? if so how much how long so on

thanks

[CHUCKYthentic]

yes you are missing a lot. hcg looks ok if that is the way you prefer to run it... i like last 3 weeks of cycle and the 2 weeks btwn end of cycle and start of pct

you need clomid in pct for 4 weeks @ at least 50 ED (could go 100mg ED week 1)
need and AI in pct like aromasin or adex, unless you opt to run it on cycle
and i would also recommend cabergoline on cycle and in pct if you choose

if you go with nolvadex only for pct you are looking at a horribly slow recovery, loss in gains, and even estrogen problems

[busaboy27]

ok ill get the clomid run for 4 weeks
aromasin dose? how long?
cabergoline ill get that too. also dose and so on?

[CHUCKYthentic]

aromasin id go 4 weeks @ 25mg ED
caber, .25mg every 3 days (twice a week), notice the point in from of the .25mg, LOL, just in case

check this thread out on caber for the fun of it, great thread
The How To Use Caber Thread

also what is your cycle experience? any past experience with tren acetate?

[busaboy27]

oh ya ive done tren 3 times
a-bombs
winny
decca
eq
masteron
test- cyp,prop,enanthate
d-bol
maybe some others but forgot
ive done alot cycles not really getting into pct to much just hcg and nolva but i think its time for me to do it right and all the way

[CHUCKYthentic]

oh alright good. ya man ive ran some bad pct's in my time as well. you ll feel hella better and keep gains better when you do it right

IMO id try the tren e @ 400-500mg per week. and since it has the enanthate ester attached, id try to go at least 8 weeks with it. 10 would prob be best bro

with 7 weeks like in your proposed cycle, i dont thnk you would get the best benefit from it

[busaboy27]

alright sounds good thanks

[CHUCKYthentic]

good luck man

[Swifto]

oh ya ive done tren 3 times
a-bombs
winny
decca
eq
masteron
test- cyp,prop,enanthate
d-bol
maybe some others but forgot
ive done alot cycles not really getting into pct to much just hcg and nolva but i think its time for me to do it right and all the way

If you've run Tren and Deca before and not used Cabergoline and not ran into problems, you dont need it.

I use HCG when on at 125-250ius 2-3 times weekly with 0.5mg/ED Arimidex . Then PCT with Toremifene and low dose Clomid.

[busaboy27]

the thing is i didnt know much about tren when i did it to know what was going on... or how to diagnosis a side..


i had someone tell me what to do 5 years ago when i first started. was so messed up
first cycle was a-bomb 75 ran alone
second cycle was test e 300 with tren 75


so u can see i just jumper right into it.. but now since its years later and gotten more knowledge i will look for it and keep the cabergolone on hand

thanks

[hankdiesel]

first cycle-anadrol only...damn! Did you keep any of those gains? I'm just curious, not trying to flame you. I was not that knowledgeable either when I first started.

[busaboy27]

ya did know much about anything.. just told my friend i wanted to get big and thats what he gave me.. this was about 5 years ago.. i gained 30 pounds in 35 day i think. was taking 75mg everyday.. had crazy side effects.. bloody noses that would not stop looks like i got shot. took pill hour later had a hot flash and i would just flip out with rage.
i kept about 15 pounds of it.. got incredibly strong off of it.. and since than my strength still stayed up besides losing a little whn i got off. i was 155 pounds after water weight loss putting up 315. naturally only 205.. so it definitly increased strength.