Need PCT input pre-cycle start

[adam1111]

Ok bros - I am getting back into it after a year layoff from the weights. To get myself back in the game I have gotten some nandrodex 300, test-e 200, and GP Sustanon. This is my first time using *** or **** but the word out there right now is that they work.

I am going to a simple stack with the test e and the deca....what is the correct pct therapthy with this? Should I run clomid every day throughout my cycle? I'm looking at anywhere between an 8-13 week cycle.

Any comments and suggestions are welcome.
Thanks bros!!

[WARMachine]

Ok bros - I am getting back into it after a year layoff from the weights. To get myself back in the game I have gotten some nandrodex 300, test-e 200, and GP Sustanon. This is my first time using GP or edited by the word out there right now is that they work.

EDIT OUT THOSE LAB NAMES BRO. WE DONT DISCUSS SOURCES!

I am going to a simple stack with the test e and the deca....what is the correct pct therapthy with this? Should I run clomid every day throughout my cycle? I'm looking at anywhere between an 8-13 week cycle.

Deca needs to be run for AT LEAST 12 weeks. As does Test E. Why would you use Clomid during the cycle?

If you want to learn about PCT, a good place to begin is the stickies. They are at the top of this section. Start with Swiftos and Pheenos.

Any comments and suggestions are welcome.
Thanks bros!!

BOLDS.

Sounds like youre from the OLD school. Nothing wrong with that, its just there are new and better ways to run PCT and cycles. Take some time to read some profiles on these compounds, and other stickies that'll help you along.

You can also start with my sticky on ERSEs and PCT.

WARMachine's thread on Estrogen Control, Gyno treatment, and PCT.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=379916


-WAR

[adam1111]

War-

Thanks for the reply and the help bro. Here is a question for you since everyone seems to have there own 2 cents.

I am from the old school where we would do pyramid stacks with the juice....basically increasing mg's until week 7 or so and then tapering some before coming off cycle. If I am going to run test e, sustanon 270 and some deca 300 what kind of cycle would you suggest?

Also, for PCT and anti-e's while on what would you suggest? I have read all over the board and if i cant get my paws on hcg....can get the research chems like arimidex, clomid, nolva etc.....what would you suggest man?

Thanks bro!

[Papa Smurf]

Hey Adam! Glad to see your gettin back at the weights! After taking a year off from training, dont you think it would be wise to get back into your routine, get the ole tendons and ligaments loose and make sure the diet is in check.

Maybe run your cycle six months from now. Hate to see you come back and then get injuried. Just my .02 cents from a really old school.


Good luck bro and welcome back!

[adam1111]

Thanks for the thoughts man.....yeah, I guess I must be getting old if I am from the old school. I havebt been pushing real hard in the gym but I havent turned into a total slug and done nothing....I am going to hit it pretty hard for a month before I start my cycle. Im thinking I should get some good solid gains if I run a 12 week test e, sustanon 270, deca 300 stack.

What do you guys think in terms of dosages per week? Ive been reading all over the board. I used to do pyrimid cycles where I would gradually increase the dosages and then taper them off a bit before finishing the cycle. The board seems to recceomend to just run the same mg's each week.

So, what I am asking is....what would you run if you had the below gear on hand. I am thinking a 10-12 week cycle. Looks like I will need another bottle of the deca?? I looked under the Novice cycle recomendations on the site but wanted to see what others might come up with given my gear i have on hand
10 ml Deca 300
10ml Sustanon 270
10ml Test Enanth 250

PCT : Clomid, Nolva, a Ldex

I gotta start getting my mind right to be back in the gym and hitting it hard...want to make sure I get the most out of the gear and my body.

Thanks bros!!!

[adam1111]

Oh yeah, so for PCT....after reading War's suggestions and going through the stickies it sounds like I should be taking Nolvadex 20mg ED....have ldex on hand and then maybe follouw up with clomid therapy after completely off?

[Papa Smurf]

Hey Adam! Since thats the gear you have on hand, I would just do 1cc of each compound ew. Maybe stop the deca 2 weeks short or find some more test. long ester is possible, and run the all the deca for 10 weeks and let the extra test work in week 11 and 12. My current cycle is 500mg Cyp/300mg Deca ew and so far Ive had great results!

Good luck Bro!

[WARMachine]

Oh yeah, so for PCT....after reading War's suggestions and going through the stickies it sounds like I should be taking Nolvadex 20mg ED....have ldex on hand and then maybe follouw up with clomid therapy after completely off?

Yes Clomid and Nolva are the best available options you have. I would pass on the Adex simply because Nolvadex reducess the effectiveness of it. And besides, there isnt much point in running it during PCT unless you run a dose of 1mg. Which IMO is excessive.

If youre hell bent on using an AI, look into the use of Aromasin.

[adam1111]

War -

Thanks for the help bro.....

Think I might be just a tad gyno prone....what would you suggest I run for this type of cyle as a preventative? These is was too much info to give me a clear picture...

I gotta get bigger and stronger quick..I'm going back to the sandbox soon

[WARMachine]

Adex for on cycle ERSE prevention.

Doses and everything is explained in my article.