PCT after my Test Sust cycle? Older Guy.

**fummins** · 06-08-2009, 12:29 PM

Im hoping to get some good information about the need (or not) to run PCT in my particular case. Im 50 y.o 6'2" and 205# dont know my bf index but its on the lower side. Been working out hard for the last 3 years, and my diet is clean, absolutely no junk food and mucho protein.I have been on Test Sust for about 14 weeks at a dosage of 125 per week. I also started HGH about 4 weeks ago with a relatively small dosage of 2 i.u. per day Monday thru Friday and none on Sat and Sun.I have heard from some of the older guys at my gym that they do this stack for years with no break, let alone PCT and have suffered no Gyno sides.Considering my relatively low dosages is it critical that I follow PCT? I have no sides and my sex drive is still roaring. Thanks for any input.

**fummins** · 06-18-2009, 09:44 AM

bump, no input?

**Dukkit** · 06-18-2009, 09:47 AM

well the test dose you ran wouldnt be considered a cycle dose.
its more of a TRT/HRT dose.

and at your age i would actually say to stay on that dose till you die. lol

are you on TRT? Is this your first cycle?

so i would say if you want to come off the test.. then yes.. a PCT is needed. especially at your age cuz it will be harder for your nuts to get back to producing test.

id even venture to say that after a cycle at your age. no matter the low dose or not... it would just be better to go to the doctor and get on HRT

**Dukkit** · 06-18-2009, 09:48 AM

you may get more replies to this if you ask a Mod to move it to the TRT section of the board. maybe

**fummins** · 06-25-2009, 11:08 AM

Thanks for the reply, appreciate it. Im now thinking about bumping up to 300 per week of the Test Sust, throwing a little dbol in the mix and keep the HGH where it is at 2 i.u per day. Wanting to add about 10 mre pounds of lean muscle. Mod, please move to appropriate section if possible. Thanks.

**mouse78** · 06-25-2009, 11:14 AM

well a normal healthy YOUNG :-) guy produces about 35mg of test a week, so even 125 mg of sust will shut down what little test production you still have. If you deside to stop taking as a pct will definitly be usefull. I used to train a 70 year old professor who still was on teh juice. never seen a guy in his 70's still enjoying live as mutch as he did :-)

**dec11** · 06-26-2009, 04:27 PM

i'd put the sust up2 500mg a week, 125mg eod

**fummins** · 06-28-2009, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by declan11

i'd put the sust up2 500mg a week, 125mg eod

Funny you say that, i was having the same thought and in fact just bumped up the Sust last week to 250 per week. Any input on how much Dbol can be ingested without geting bloating issues? Im after about 10# of mass the leaner the better and would rather forgo the Dbol if I cant use a smaller dosage to help me do this without the bloating. Thanks.

**Big** · 06-28-2009, 12:22 PM

if you are going to cycle you need pct. if you are going on trt from now on there is no pct.
being that you are proposing a cycle I see no reason to move this to the trt section. have you considered trying to get on trt through your doc?

**Big** · 06-28-2009, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by fummins

Funny you say that, i was having the same thought and in fact just bumped up the Sust last week to 250 per week. Any input on how much Dbol can be ingested without geting bloating issues? Im after about 10# of mass the leaner the better and would rather forgo the Dbol if I cant use a smaller dosage to help me do this without the bloating. Thanks.

if you are concerned with bloating, I'd skip the dbol all together.

**fummins** · 06-28-2009, 12:48 PM

Thanks Big, appreciate the response,no i havent been to the doc yet,probably will since im taking this seriously now. So if i understand correctly the TRT at steady doses, say test Sust at 125 per week is about the maximum before PCT is warranted? Kinda like the "cruise" on a cruise and blast routine? Would a "blast at some time be beneficial if I were on the TRT max of 125 per week, or would that trigger PCT? Thanks for the time.

**Big** · 06-28-2009, 12:53 PM

the average male produces approximately 7mg/day of testosterone . consistently injecting any amount over that would warrant pct.
at 50, trt is your best option, just stay on with no pct. I'm 42 and feel like I'm 18, but look way better than I did at 18.
even if you cruise and blast, no pct is required. pct is only required if you cycle then stop.

**fummins** · 06-28-2009, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Big

the average male produces approximately 7mg/day of testosterone . consistently injecting any amount over that would warrant pct.
at 50, trt is your best option, just stay on with no pct. I'm 42 and feel like I'm 18, but look way better than I did at 18.
even if you cruise and blast, no pct is required. pct is only required if you cycle then stop.

Thanks again Big, service is first rate around here! What dosage would my blast be and how often? Thanks.

**Big** · 06-28-2009, 01:06 PM

start by determining your test levels and cruise, stay at that for at least a few months before considering a blast phase. many/most on trt do not blast.

**fummins** · 06-28-2009, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Big

start by determining your test levels and cruise, stay at that for at least a few months before considering a blast phase. many/most on trt do not blast.

Gotcha. One more question for ya Ole' knowledgeable one, would you pin the Sust weeklyat 125, or bi-weekly at 250? Thanks.

**Big** · 06-28-2009, 01:18 PM

before you start, you should go get bloodwork done and talk to the doc about trt, you quite possibly would qualify, meaning you never have to worry about sources, bunk gear, etc. let the doc prescribe you at first and see how you feel.