Tormifene

[Dangerdan]

I'm selecting PCT for a basic 10 week cycle of Test-E (600mg weekly). I have used nolva/clomid in the past but am thinking of using Tormifene.

When selecting Torm as a SERM for PCT, is it necessary to also run Clomid or Nolva? If so, will either Clomid or Nolva be appropriate, or should one be selected over the other?

I'm contemplating running:

Tormifene 100/60/60/60
Aromasin 10/10/10/10

Should I also add Clomid or Nolva at something like?
Clomid at 100/50/50/50 or
Nolva at 40/40/20/20

I have seen suggestions that Nolva be run with Clomid. Could someone explain why Nolva would be superior to Clomid when run with Torm. Does it have to do with the fact that Nolva can be useful in limiting estrogen whereas Clomid is generally thought of as an LH stimulator? If so, will the addition of a small dose of Aromasin reduce the need for Nolva?

To summarize: will Torm and a small dose of Aromasin be sufficient alone after a basic Test-E cycle?

[peachfuzz]

Torem is supposed to have the estrogen blocking properties of nolva and HPTA stimulation properties of clomid. If you choose to incorporate another SERM either will work but I like the way you outlined the torem/aromasin. only change is id drop the aromasin a week or so prior to dropping the torem.

i say leave out nolva and clomid so you can have a fair evaluation. the post cycle will be sufficient to answer your question.

as far as why nolva and clomid together... you have it right.

[Dangerdan]

My initial thought was to try Torm without the aide of any other SERM. I always have bloodwork done at the end of PCT so I guess whatever I run, I'll find out how well it works in a couple of months as I'm due to start PCT in about four weeks.

[peachfuzz]

i have used torem before, granted it was at the end of a PH cycle but i really liked it.

[Swifto]

Tore is excellent at HPTA restoration. I like it with low dose Clomid (25mg/ED). But Tamox is very effective too at 20mg/ED. Run your PCT for around 5-6 weeks.

You dont need an AI during PCT. Estrogen is low, so why reduce it further? Answer: You shouldnt. Combining 2 SERMs will more than suffice.