HELP please.....

**KeyserSoze1** · 09-07-2009, 09:59 PM

Hey all. I am currently in the last 3 weeks of my Test E cycle. LAst shot is Oct 1. Then off for 2 weeks. Then Nolva and Clomid for 30 days. Then im off to a holiday in Mexico for 2 weeks. Here is my question

I realize the you use PCT when you start to get Gyno......and it makes you natually raise your Test levels to counteract the Gyno. (this is from what I have read on stickies etc and from what I understood)

How is it that you then use the same PCT at the end of a cycle to raise your estrogen levels.....in turn your body will naturally raise test levels back to normal. This confuses me.

Also, last cycle 6 months ago......I also did Test E. And then I ran Nolva and Clomid for 30 days. I broke out in acne, was very moody, and ended up losing ALOT of the gains that I had made while on the gear. So, I was kinda like, whats the point in the PCT?

I am debating using any PCT this time around. I dont wanna be all sad and moody, acne and lose gains yet again. I realize that the purpose of PCT is to prevent the loss of gains in the first place. I also dont want my sex drive to be next to zero while in Mexico.

Please dont flame me!! These are legit questions in my mind.

Thanks guys!!

**sizerp** · 09-07-2009, 10:02 PM

Maybe this should be moved to the PCT section.

**ted666** · 09-07-2009, 10:30 PM

if you dont use pct compounds you will feel worse trust me , my test was "34", norm= 270- 870 , so iwas shut down and i didnt do pct , you dont wanna do it. as far as losing your gains probably your pct diet and you didntr mention doses of each u were using

**CHAP** · 09-07-2009, 10:38 PM

Some of the pct drugs seem to effect mood as I have seen alot of peope say.

You need to run the pct. Your going to have a mood change anyway, because you had all those weeks with very high test levels and now you have very low test levels.

Its really not the PCT meds that create the mood change buy rather the sudden and drastic change in hormone levels.

The PCT will actually get you mood back to normal faster than if you did not PCT at all.

As far as you saying PCT is used to raise estrogen I think you should go back to the PCT stickies and reread that I'm pretty sure that is incorrect. But I could be wrong.

What could happen to you if you do not do a PCT is your mood will go to shit as I said you would. And instead of it taking you longer to return to normal hormone levels. You may not return at all. This will keep you mood very bad. You will stay fatigued . Along with many other effects that happen when hormones are not where they are supposed to be. The only way then to correct it will be to run a heavy PCT , Have blood work done and if that does not work see a dr.

Do your PCT

**CHAP** · 09-07-2009, 10:39 PM

I had low test levels for 1 1/2 years and it sucks . Do your pct

**CHAP** · 09-07-2009, 10:41 PM

About the acne. With me I would always get the most during pct. And now that Im on trt its just a constant nuisance. If your prone to it you just have to deal

**Aizen Sosuke** · 09-08-2009, 06:46 AM

Nothing you could do about the acne if you are prone to it, maybe some accutane. Now I recomend you try HCG starting now on your cycle at 500iu/EOD through the first week of PCT. You won't lose your gains if you eat good and train hard.

**TITANIUM** · 09-09-2009, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by KeyserSoze1

Hey all. I am currently in the last 3 weeks of my Test E cycle. LAst shot is Oct 1. Then off for 2 weeks. Then Nolva and Clomid for 30 days. Then im off to a holiday in Mexico for 2 weeks. Here is my question

I realize the you use PCT when you start to get Gyno......and it makes you natually raise your Test levels to counteract the Gyno. (this is from what I have read on stickies etc and from what I understood)

How is it that you then use the same PCT at the end of a cycle to raise your estrogen levels.....in turn your body will naturally raise test levels back to normal. This confuses me.

Also, last cycle 6 months ago......I also did Test E. And then I ran Nolva and Clomid for 30 days. I broke out in acne, was very moody, and ended up losing ALOT of the gains that I had made while on the gear. So, I was kinda like, whats the point in the PCT?

I am debating using any PCT this time around. I dont wanna be all sad and moody, acne and lose gains yet again. I realize that the purpose of PCT is to prevent the loss of gains in the first place. I also dont want my sex drive to be next to zero while in Mexico.

Please dont flame me!! These are legit questions in my mind.

Thanks guys!!

OK, you absolutely need to run a proper PCT.

You can run low dose accutane for acne issues.

You can pick up some viagra or cialis for your vaca.

It is what we all have to deal with sometimes.

Best

T