My PCT from Prop Only Cycle Critique

[jackjackson]

I been running Test Prop EOD at 150mg 1.5ml for 10 weeks. ( Fun first cycle, I enjoyed hobbling around the first few weeks LOL )
I do Have pics
Last shot was 9-27-09
PCT will start 9-30-09


Been running HCG from week 8 - 10 @ 500iu E5D.
Also started creatine HCL and beta-alanine and betaine at week 8



Here is what im looking at for my PCT

Nolva- 40/40/20/20
Clomid - 100/100/50/50
Arimidex 0.5-1mg/ED

Diet is going to stay the same, I may increase it a bit to have some extra cals since it will be very catabolic.
http://www.roadtobodybuilding.com/meal.pdf

PWO I normally take 2G of vitamin C and 1000mg of phosphatidylserine
At soon as I wake up I have a banana and 1g of vitamin C +5 - 10G glutamine and then I started cooking my egg whites and 1st meal

This is my PWO shake below

5G bcaa + 5-10G glutamine + 24g on whey + 20g probolic-sr + 70-80g Waxymaize + 5G creatine HCL + 2G of vitamin C and 1000mg of phosphatidylserine

I will maintain this during PCT as phosphatidylserine + vitamin C are awesome PWO at killing cortisol and especially at PCT.


I have more than enough clomid, nolva, hcg, adex if needed.

My goal is to do pct for a month, then for the next 2 months try and slim down a bit for 2nd cycle in jan.
I will maintain at least 150-200G carbs per day even when I am cutting.
I will just drop carbs from 400 to 200 and AM cardio, always worked well.
During my PCT I am going to try and keep everything not start trying to clean up the BF till after PCT is over.
Next Cycle looks like deca, test e, anadrol.
Might do a blast cycle, but will consult others for priming tips.
Have Clen and ketofen on hand but I can cut ok without it as its mostly diet but I know clen is very muscle sparing.
Was thinking about T3, but don't know much about it yet or even if I needed to toy with it.




Please give me your thoughts on this and any advice, this is my first pct as this was my first cycle.

So far I been maintain my weight at about 196 at wake up with about 16%bf.
Im 5'8 196 at wakeup, 200-202 End of Day.
Also Changing my workouts from 5 days per week mon - fri to Mon Wens and fri
Trying to stick to low reps powerlifting
Monday - Legs
Wednesday - Back
Friday - Chest

I will have more rest time.
My reason is along with strength comes size and I can use 3 days a week from the 5 days routine.

[Vitruvian-Man]

Nolva- 40/40/20/20
Clomid - 100/50/50/25

^^ I would just run it like that. You'll recover fine, especially since you used HCG. should be good to go.

[jackjackson]

Even though I used HCG for only the last 2 weeks, and no AI?

[Vitruvian-Man]

Even though I used HCG for only the last 2 weeks, and no AI?

Using HCG for the final 2 weeks is the most common protocol followed for its use.

Obviously ideally it should just be run throughout the whole cycle @ a constant dosage..

Don't use an AI during PCT. You don't need one now.

Save it for your next cycle (if you retain water)..

[jackjackson]

Thanks.
I was just looking at a few stickies here stating that.

Nolva- 40/40/20/20
Clomid - 100/50/50/25

So I'll just run that.
Any harm in doing it for 5 weeks?


Personally I think I lost some gains because I was using an AI EOD adex

[Vitruvian-Man]

Thanks.
I was just looking at a few stickies here stating that.

Nolva- 40/40/20/20
Clomid - 100/50/50/25

So I'll just run that.
Any harm in doing it for 5 weeks?


Personally I think I lost some gains because I was using an AI EOD adex

4 weeks should definitely be suffice. You did a prop only cycle.. you'll recover fine on a 4 week PCT. (SERMS - nolva/clomid) are actually "toxic" for your body. I don't like staying on them for more then necessary.

-- Regarding the a-dex.. I agree. I don't use it on cycle anymore.. You need estrogen to build muscle. But I don't ever get gyno symptoms.. I'm lucky!

[jackjackson]

I got my bloodwork back from week 10 if youd wanna see.

Thanks, Yeh I wont use an AI unless I need to next time

[jackjackson]

Nolva- 40/40/20/20
Clomid - 100/50/50/25


So I'll need all this for PCT

280mg/280mg/140mg/140mg = 720mg Nolva
700mg/350mg/350mg/175mg = 1575mg Clomid

[SpotMe87]

Nolva- 40/40/20/20
Clomid - 100/50/50/25


So I'll need all this for PCT

280mg/280mg/140mg/140mg = 720mg Nolva
700mg/350mg/350mg/175mg = 1575mg Clomid

is that per week instead of per day?

[BJJ]

I got my bloodwork back from week 10 if youd wanna see.

Thanks, Yeh I wont use an AI unless I need to next time

Your BW?