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    Pct for test prop and mast bt leaving the country a week and. Half after last shot.

    I'm running 150mg of test prop and 100mg of mast eod

    I'm doing my last shot on the 12th of December leaving on vaca on the 24

    I plan to wait a week after the last shot and then start my pct.

    Clomid=100/100/50/50/25
    Nolva=40/20/20/20

    I am using hcg at 600 hcg a week and want to bump it up to 1000 a week for the last week and then the first week before pct. I have been told this is a
    bad Idea but I tryed it last cycle and it semmed to work, I think

    just let me know what you guys think
    please feel free to shoot me down just please explain why you are
    doing it and what your backing is so I can learn.

    Thanks
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    The reason that you have been told this is because it is not necessary to bump it that high.

    This is due to the fact that you are running it during cycle.

    HCG can be suppressive under the right circumstances.

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    Ahhh I see. Ok so should I just run it at 600 all
    the way through till pct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAMER View Post
    Ahhh I see. Ok so should I just run it at 600 all
    the way through till pct?
    Yes, you can do that.

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    Thanks bro.

    I feel like I need to either bump up the hcg or shoot it more often. I can tell my balls are still shrinking. Not as bad as is I had no hcg but I'm wondering if upping the dose will help or if this is as "active" as they are going to be while on cycle

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    Your welcome.

    I run it @ 500 iu's X 2 wk straight through with 10 mgs of nolva ed.

    Depends on the cycle and duration.

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    Do you think I would be ok running that protocol except with 10 mg of areomasin a
    day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAMER View Post
    Do you think I would be ok running that protocol except with 10 mg of areomasin a
    day?
    10 mgs will wipe out your estrogen entirely.

    You can run .25 to .5 mgs eod.

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    Dang that's some powerful stuff. Pretty sure it's dosed at 25mg a ml. That's going to be tricky.

    So what's the deal with ldex wiping out your lipids or someing. I'm on vaca and all the research I'm dong it on my I phone so it's have to pull everything back up.

    Thy say the most effective in estro control goes areo/letro/ameridex

    so why wouldn't letro be good to run for bloat

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAMER View Post
    Dang that's some powerful stuff. Pretty sure it's dosed at 25mg a ml. That's going to be tricky.

    So what's the deal with ldex wiping out your lipids or someing. I'm on vaca and all the research I'm dong it on my I phone so it's have to pull everything back up.

    Thy say the most effective in estro control goes areo/letro/ameridex

    so why wouldn't letro be good to run for bloat
    If you run high amounts of adex, it will wipe out all your estrogen.

    Not good.

    Letro will wipe out almost , if not all of it.

    Again, not good.(unless you have gyno reversal in mind).

    You should be fine with the clomid and nolva.

    You ran/running HCG , so that is a good thing.

    Now, not to confuse this further, but adex and letro stimulate the testees into producing your natty test.

    The more you research this, it gets more complicated, but, it also makes more sense.

    I wish there was a stead fast rule to running these compounds, but there is some wiggle room.

    But, for the most part, alot of this is coming from members experiences, and they do experiment.

    But in your case, it is pretty straight forward.

    Do some more research and you'll see how this all plays out in the human body.

    Interesting information.

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    Thanks bro.

    I just want to get this bloat out of my face asap.

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    The bloat is water retention, for the most part.

    Happens to myself.

    Watch your sodium intake, as this will make you retain more fluid.

    Also, make sure you are drinking enough water, as if you do not drink enough, the body reacts by storing it more.

    Built in safety mechanism of sorts.

    Minimum of 1 gallon ed, this will help flush toxins out of your system.

    Best

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