PCT for Anavar?

[2dollarhaircut]

Hey, I am about to take my first cycle of anavar at 70mg/ ED for 6 weeks, I have read all the info I can online about PCT and still have a few questions.

-I was planning on taking Clomid after for 2-3 weeks. I told my source this and a few friends and they told me taking PCT when I dont need it would be more harmful than not at all. Is this true?

- Also, When my cycle ends I will be going on vacation for a week, is it harmful to drink alcohol during PCT?

- Can I or Should I continue to take NO2 while on anavar?

- What are the side effects of taking a PCT drug like Clomid if you dont really need it?

Thanks alot in advance


Oh and if it matters I am 23 years old, 6'3, 235lbs 15% body fat and this is my first cycle ever

[2dollarhaircut]

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[peachfuzz]

Hey, I am about to take my first cycle of anavar at 70mg/ ED for 6 weeks, I have read all the info I can online about PCT and still have a few questions.

-I was planning on taking Clomid after for 2-3 weeks. I told my source this and a few friends and they told me taking PCT when I dont need it would be more harmful than not at all. Is this true?

idiots, and you do need it

- Also, When my cycle ends I will be going on vacation for a week, is it harmful to drink alcohol during PCT?

will you die...not likely. aside from being counterproductive its probably not the best idea tho to start drinking fresh off of six weeks of orals. if you do decide to moderation is the key.

- Can I or Should I continue to take NO2 while on anavar?

sure

- What are the side effects of taking a PCT drug like Clomid if you dont really need it?

this doesnt apply to you. and aside from the side effects normally associated with clomid nothing negative would happen as it pertains to the HPTA.

Thanks alot in advance


Oh and if it matters I am 23 years old, 6'3, 235lbs 15% body fat and this is my first cycle ever

personally for post cycle id recommend Nolva for 3 weeks but clomid will do the job.

[BJJ]

I would advice you not to presume your pct relying on others' experiences only.
Take a blood work before your cycle and about the last week of it for a comparison, in order to have a proper glimpse of your personal situation and act accordingly in regards of your pct.

[Monster99]

I agree with BJJ. You need to do your blood work first. Everyone's body reacts differently so don't just take other people's advice.

There is no need to do PCT if you get your blood work done and the stats come back normal. Always seek medical advice as to how you should take PCT if your stats come back out of the norm.

And of course it is bad to drink Alcohol immediately following a cycle. Your liver will be stressed from the cycle weeks following the end of your cycle. Do NOT drink. If you are taking Anavar to get in shape for the vacation so you can drink, don't. Start it after. It won't do you much good at 15% body fat. Lose more fat first with a proper diet and exercise regime before using Anavar.

As for the NO2, you don't need it as you won't see any vascularity improvement at 15% body fat. It will thin your blood and make you feel feinter when you work out while on Anavar. If you really want strength gains, ditch the NO2 and take Creatine Mono. if you are taking ANAVAR to lose fat, all I can say is that you need to get your head straight first bro. If you are 15% and chunky obviously you need to lose weight first.

As for side effects for taking Clomid when you don't need it, YES there obviously are. Any physician will be able to tell you the negatives. Get your blood work done before you jump into anything stupid. Don't go taking pills when you have no idea what it would do to your body. You're obviously young and naive so go do more research please. There are tons of negatives(short and long term).

I have been taking supplements for over 10 years and all these information comes first hand and from those around me. I am currently at 243 pds, 6'2, 6.7% bf. Age: 38

When I was your age(23) I didn't need hardcore substances to cut. Just clean diet and workout. Unless you have thyroid problem bro, get your head together, put the fork down(if your diet's bad) and exercise exercise!

However, if you still insist....

If you are cutting:

Winstrol /Primo. Why take Anavar? it's a waste and a ***** move. I've taken up to doses of 150mg/day for 8 weeks and it DOES work, however I was already at about 9% BF and was looking to maintain my mass ( 240 pounds) while dropping more BF.

If you are bulking:

Obviously Anavar is NOT your choice.


Anavar is amazing for women and rookies. Go all out or nothing at all.

Cheers,

Matt

[TITANIUM]

Var is expensive, so that is the biggest deterrent.

I think it is perfect for bridging though.

This being your first cycle, I would run test E and save the Var for another time.IMHO

23 years old is young to me, but I tell people 25.


Var is easy on the HPTA, so there is a fine line in the sand here.

Best

T

[Monster99]

I tell you... an overweight and not-fit 23 year old should NOT be doing Anavar . Go on a clean diet and work out properly first and use Anavar for the last stage of cutting.

It is quite obvious that you do not diet and exercise properly and/or you have not done this for a prolonged period of time.

What is the point of going on a cycle then drinking IMMEDIATELY afterwards during the holiday?

I hate it when fat people try to cut corners. there's NO such thing as cutting corners in lifting. As to answer your PM, I am telling you this to help you. Take as hard a substance as possible if that is the result you are looking for. Anavar, as I said, won't do you much good if you are at 15% fat. It's just a waste of money. Do the needle bro. PM me.

Matt

[iloveroids]

Matt you couldn't be more right, i'm so tired of these fat lazy kids thinking they can get an 8 pack by just taking some roids. Roids are great but they should be used once you've already maximized everything else such as diet and training regiments. I hate chunkies like this kid, go get fit then do roids. Dont PM me.

[LoLRoids]

Hey idiots

Monster 99 and iloveroids. These are the funniest and worst posts I've seen on the internet. He's just a regular kid trying to use that little extra edge. How do you know whether he has been trying hard or not? Lets not be judging. It really must hurt his feelings. Some people are just not built like machines like us and obviously 2dollar is one of the unfortunate.

lol Matt you have an IQ of 60 and the balls the size of a raisin.

Cheersss

[2dollarhaircut]

This is PCT forum, not the convincing rookies to " do the needle bro" forum.

OK, first of all I have been working out consistently for well over a year, the reason I chose this cycle was because I feel I have plateaued with my strength training and want to cut fat WHILE maintaining muscle, this is something I have struggled to do for the last few months.

Secondly, I chose Anavar because I can afford it and its mild side effects, I have no intention or need to be 250 and 6% body fat. My goal is 215-225 and sub 10%

Thanks Monster99, but its hard to take advice from someone who says 15% is overweight, and whose 2nd post on a forum ends with the phrase " do the needle bro"

But seriously thanks a lot BJJ, peachfuzz and TITANIUM

[Swifto]

I agree with BJJ. You need to do your blood work first. Everyone's body reacts differently so don't just take other people's advice.

There is no need to do PCT if you get your blood work done and the stats come back normal. Always seek medical advice as to how you should take PCT if your stats come back out of the norm.

And of course it is bad to drink Alcohol immediately following a cycle. Your liver will be stressed from the cycle weeks following the end of your cycle. Do NOT drink. If you are taking Anavar to get in shape for the vacation so you can drink, don't. Start it after. It won't do you much good at 15% body fat. Lose more fat first with a proper diet and exercise regime before using Anavar.

As for the NO2, you don't need it as you won't see any vascularity improvement at 15% body fat. It will thin your blood and make you feel feinter when you work out while on Anavar. If you really want strength gains, ditch the NO2 and take Creatine Mono. if you are taking ANAVAR to lose fat, all I can say is that you need to get your head straight first bro. If you are 15% and chunky obviously you need to lose weight first.

As for side effects for taking Clomid when you don't need it, YES there obviously are. Any physician will be able to tell you the negatives. Get your blood work done before you jump into anything stupid. Don't go taking pills when you have no idea what it would do to your body. You're obviously young and naive so go do more research please. There are tons of negatives(short and long term).

I have been taking supplements for over 10 years and all these information comes first hand and from those around me. I am currently at 243 pds, 6'2, 6.7% bf. Age: 38
When I was your age(23) I didn't need hardcore substances to cut. Just clean diet and workout. Unless you have thyroid problem bro, get your head together, put the fork down(if your diet's bad) and exercise exercise!

However, if you still insist....

If you are cutting:

Winstrol /Primo. Why take Anavar? it's a waste and a ***** move. I've taken up to doses of 150mg/day for 8 weeks and it DOES work, however I was already at about 9% BF and was looking to maintain my mass ( 240 pounds) while dropping more BF.

If you are bulking:

Obviously Anavar is NOT your choice.


Anavar is amazing for women and rookies. Go all out or nothing at all.

Cheers,

Matt

You got any pics up?

Their impressive stats mate.

[Swifto]

Var is expensive, so that is the biggest deterrent.

I think it is perfect for bridging though.

This being your first cycle, I would run test E and save the Var for another time.IMHO

23 years old is young to me, but I tell people 25.


Var is easy on the HPTA, so there is a fine line in the sand here.

Best

T

Var isnt easy on the HPTA T. It can really inhibit some user's or cause complete testicular shutdown in low doses.

Clinical data states even "2.5mg/ED" can cause a significant reduction in ganadotrophins.

[BJJ]

You got any pics up?

Their impressive stats mate.

...x2

[2dollarhaircut]

OK, so I have lots of Clomid and lots of Nolvadex , I am kind of scared of the clomid side effects can I get away with just Nolva or can I do something like 50/50/50/50 and 20/20/20/20 ?

[Monster99]

This is PCT forum, not the convincing rookies to " do the needle bro" forum.

OK, first of all I have been working out consistently for well over a year, the reason I chose this cycle was because I feel I have plateaued with my strength training and want to cut fat WHILE maintaining muscle, this is something I have struggled to do for the last few months.

Secondly, I chose Anavar because I can afford it and its mild side effects, I have no intention or need to be 250 and 6% body fat. My goal is 215-225 and sub 10%

Thanks Monster99, but its hard to take advice from someone who says 15% is overweight, and whose 2nd post on a forum ends with the phrase " do the needle bro"

But seriously thanks a lot BJJ, peachfuzz and TITANIUM

2dollar, If you have been working out consistently for over a year, what was your bf before? If you dieted and exercised properly you should have been able to cut down to low 10s in one year. If you were 30% plus or so before, however, 15% bf is not a bad decline.

If you ask any experienced lifter or athlete, they would tell you how difficult it is cutting fat while maintaining muscle is.. However, 15% should not be the plateau point for anybody if they are eating and training properly. Obviously you are not doing either.

You say you want to get lean but then you ask this forum if it's ok to drink after doing an Anavar cycle... get real bro. I'm the one telling you the cold hard truth here. Eat properly and hit the gym harder! Can anybody in this forum knock some sense into this poor naive 23 year old? Hardest part of getting to sub 10% is mental strength and you dont seem to have it bro.

I do not know what dosage you are taking but if you are taking high dosages of 80mg plus , it is still moderately toxic on your liver and is as bad as taking weak dosages of level 2 steroids . (Anavar is level 1). So hopefully you have done your research.

As for Clomid, if you are already taking Anavar, which is a steroid , why are you getting worried about the side effects of Clomid. Don't ask stupid questions as to what the effect is like on the body if you drink alcohol after a cycle then get all ***** and get scared about taking Clomid.

As for the needle comment, there's nothing wrong with doing the needle. I assumed you are taking Anavar on tab.. which is harder on the liver. If you use needles properly it bypasses your liver and is safer and more effective. If you are doing steroids you might as well do them properly bro. Tabs are

a) less effective as your liver breaks them down
b) more toxic on the liver and body

Hence why i say, use the needles bro. Alot of people in my line of work use steroids and if used properly with a doctor's supervision(preferrabily) it is safer than drinking alcohol bro

I'll post my picture up within a week or so when I return from filming. 2dollar lets see some pictures too so we can give better advice. It seems like you need some diet and training advice before PCT and Anavar...

Matt

[Swifto]

2dollar, If you have been working out consistently for over a year, what was your bf before? If you dieted and exercised properly you should have been able to cut down to low 10s in one year. If you were 30% plus or so before, however, 15% bf is not a bad decline.

If you ask any experienced lifter or athlete, they would tell you how difficult it is cutting fat while maintaining muscle is.. However, 15% should not be the plateau point for anybody if they are eating and training properly. Obviously you are not doing either.

You say you want to get lean but then you ask this forum if it's ok to drink after doing an Anavar cycle... get real bro. I'm the one telling you the cold hard truth here. Eat properly and hit the gym harder! Can anybody in this forum knock some sense into this poor naive 23 year old? Hardest part of getting to sub 10% is mental strength and you dont seem to have it bro.

I do not know what dosage you are taking but if you are taking high dosages of 80mg plus , it is still moderately toxic on your liver and is as bad as taking weak dosages of level 2 steroids . (Anavar is level 1). So hopefully you have done your research.

As for Clomid, if you are already taking Anavar, which is a steroid , why are you getting worried about the side effects of Clomid. Don't ask stupid questions as to what the effect is like on the body if you drink alcohol after a cycle then get all ***** and get scared about taking Clomid.

As for the needle comment, there's nothing wrong with doing the needle. I assumed you are taking Anavar on tab.. which is harder on the liver. If you use needles properly it bypasses your liver and is safer and more effective. If you are doing steroids you might as well do them properly bro. Tabs are

a) less effective as your liver breaks them down
b) more toxic on the liver and body

Hence why i say, use the needles bro. Alot of people in my line of work use steroids and if used properly with a doctor's supervision(preferrabily) it is safer than drinking alcohol bro

I'll post my picture up within a week or so when I return from filming. 2dollar lets see some pictures too so we can give better advice. It seems like you need some diet and training advice before PCT and Anavar...

Matt

Good post.

[Monster99]

do the needle bro!