sufficient pct to start tren/prop?

**elfin1mf** · 11-25-2009, 11:18 PM

I will be starting my tren ac/prop cycle soon, probably this week. I will also probably add in 3-ad which works on DHT receptors (I respond very well to this supplement). I am not sure the exact amounts I will be using but it will be low doses (around 500mg of each a week or so). Do not know how long I will feel like staying on this cycle, I might cut it off at 5 or 6 weeks and I might go 10. Never done tren before. Here is what I have in stock right now for therapy: Nolva, Letro, Formestane (formadrol oral supp), 6-oxo. On the doses I plan to use, does anyone think I should go ahead and use some AI all throughout the cycle? If so, should I go with very low dose letro or should I use one of the weaker AI? What do you recommend post cycle? With these doses will it really be necessary to take caber (shit is damn expensive and I do not know where to get it right now)? what else should I consider?

**elfin1mf** · 11-30-2009, 04:17 PM

So I have done more research and think that even though there are conflicting opinions, I should surely add prami to this arsenal. Everyone says it is way better than caber so that one is a no brainer. I needed some Clomid anyway. I forgot to mention I will also be using hcg . With an arsenal like this, does anyone have any suggestions on my dosing? I especially want to know when to introduce prami.. nolva.. clomid.. and AIs. I will just use hcg throughout cycle and cut it out 2 weeks prior to cutting out my serms in pct. Like I said I do not know how I will respond to the tren so I could use suggestions please.

**TITANIUM** · 11-30-2009, 08:02 PM

Can you give us your stats bro?

Best

T

**elfin1mf** · 11-30-2009, 10:34 PM

I am 6'1 190lbs and have juiced before once test prop and I did ok, and kept everything but I did only like 4-500mg a week. I have done a couple prohormone cycles with various items which made my bad acne terrible, and I had some success with my physique with those cycles and seemed to gain about 3 lbs each time. When I started working out, about 3 years ago now, I was only a little over 140 lbs. I am 21 years old and did my first cycle when I turned 21 and it did not **** with my natty test levels and I got no significant sides. My bloodpressure went up, but it was low in the first place so it actually helped me to get it to a good point haha. I would say my bf% is low, I can see my abs, but a month or two ago I was way more ripped, ready for the beach. I want to bulk, but I hate to see myself get fat and bloated which is where the tren comes in. I am 21, if you do not want to help me then do not.. but I think I am ready for this. I have no problems stopping the cycle whenever if the sides get to me.

**elfin1mf** · 12-10-2009, 07:30 PM

If anyone wants to help at this point, I have decided to go .125 - .25mg a day prami, and to use nolva + hcg for pct, stopping the hcg 2 weeks before I stop the nolva. I read so many things both negative and positive about nolva. I have decided that the majority of people who have used it think that nolva is good for any pct. I have also decided that even though most people on this forum think it is best to mix clomid and nolva, most people on other forums think that it is overkill to mix any serms. I will use letro at my discretion on cycle, but will avoid it during pct unless I have some sort of post cycle gyno issues. I am going to use suspension in oil 2x daily instead of prop, but if I do not like it I will use prop instead.