dont want water retention

[glennyo1981]

im about to do a sus, decca, dbol cycle and i dont want too get too much water reten. i looked at myself in my lats cycle of just sus and it was bad. what exactly should i do??? i dont know too much bout this, do nolvaldex help this(i have some) or do i need something else, exact doses will help, thanks

[D7M]

Nolva won't work for water retention.

You'll need an AI, like arimidex. .25mg EOD should be fine to lower estrogen a bit and reduce bloat.

Curiously what what's your complete cycle and stats?

[glennyo1981]

did you mean my first cycle or the one im gonna do? my first was just 500 mg a week of sustanon. the one im gonna do is prob going to be 30mg of dbol for 4 weeks, 500mg week of sus, and 200 a week of decca. any advice will help, thanks alot

[Big]

Nolva won't work for water retention.

You'll need an AI, like arimidex. .25mg EOD should be fine to lower estrogen a bit and reduce bloat.

Curiously what what's your complete cycle and stats?

did you mean my first cycle or the one im gonna do? my first was just 500 mg a week of sustanon. the one im gonna do is prob going to be 30mg of dbol for 4 weeks, 500mg week of sus, and 200 a week of decca. any advice will help, thanks alot

he's telling you what you need, what would that have to do with a cycle you have already ran?

[D7M]

Yah, I meant what is your planned (upcoming) cycle.

What are your stats, also:

age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?

[NVR2BIG1]

if you dont want water retention then your entire cycle is bad. All of those compounds hold water, and you'd be better off just going with a prop/tren combo or something along those lines

[glennyo1981]

sorry about that, i wasnt thinkin, had a few beers. im 28, 6 ft, 217lbs, i dont know my body fat, im thinking its pretty hi, im not fat but i do have a gut, ive been training about two years

[glennyo1981]

i actually like the water retention i just dont want it to be too much. i heard that that combo will give me alot of wr

[D7M]

If you have a high body fat (or a gut) then you don't need steroids, my man.

You need a solid diet, cardio schedule, dedication.

There's no short cut to having an impressive physique, and cycling steroids at a higher body fat will probably lead to increased side effects, as well as less than optimal aesthetic results.

[NVR2BIG1]

dude, that dbol is going to bloat the shit out of you regardless. These guys make anti e's sound like magic, but the effects are minimal, nothing your going to see a difference from unless you were extremely lean already. Do you already have gear on hand or have you ordered yet?

[glennyo1981]

dont have it yet, i get it from someone i know and i believe he makes it. my gut wont go away, i do diet and do cardio, not a real serious diet, just make sure i eat healthy. i used to drink alot but dont anymore, just a few here and there on the weekends

[D7M]

sorry about that, i wasnt thinkin, had a few beers. im 28, 6 ft, 217lbs, i dont know my body fat, im thinking its pretty hi, im not fat but i do have a gut, ive been training about two years

dont have it yet, i get it from someone i know and i believe he makes it. my gut wont go away, i do diet and do cardio, not a real serious diet, just make sure i eat healthy. i used to drink alot but dont anymore, just a few here and there on the weekends

I'm not saying you can't ever drink, but if you want your gut to "go away" you will need to tighten up that diet, and add in more cardio.

[glennyo1981]

anyway, what ai would u do with this cycle?

[glennyo1981]

my girl just told me they will test my body fat at the gym i go to for free, so i will post that tomorrow after i go

[Big]

let's see what the bf% is then go from there

[glennyo1981]

k, cool.... thanks bro

[NVR2BIG1]

if they test it with the hand held thing that stupid thing is not accurate. Unless its a skin fold dont go by the number they give you from an electronic device.

I would not use a cycle like this for what your trying to do, actually I wouldn't use any cycle until you an say your stomach is flat, not necessarily abs, but at the minimum flat, that means it does not hang over your jeans

[glennyo1981]

ill ket you know tomorrow how they do it. the belly aint that big, not hangin over the belt, lol. ill try to post some pics tomorrow too

[glennyo1981]

apparently i have too set up a appointment with a trainer too get my body fat level tested, i guess they clip something on your toe and your finger, i dont even remember what they told me. im gonna post a pic in a hot one

[glennyo1981]

my boobs look lop sided, haha, just realized that. my girl said the gut got smaller

[glennyo1981]

by the way, i gave myself gold teeth and a beard

[NVR2BIG1]

thanx for the pic, yeah def stay away from the dbol, deca, sus cycle. That would be the type of cycle for someone who doesnt mind getting some bloat and fat and was just trying to get big and strong at that given time. Go with just a test prop/winny cycle or prop and tren. I'd try and get about 15-20 more lbs off me first though

[glennyo1981]

thanks i apreciate the help

[NVR2BIG1]

np, good luck

[npb]

You made yourself sound like a beast, but you really only need to lose about 10-15lbs before you start your cycle. Why do people always bump up their second cycle so much compared to their first cycle, how were your gains first cycle?

[glennyo1981]

i gained about 20lbs off my first cycle. how do you know how much im bumping up my next cycle if you dont even know how many mg's of each im doing

[glennyo1981]

i got some letro, how much should i take ed with the cycle?

[glennyo1981]

i got some letro, how much should i take ed with the cycle?

letro is too strong, u should get liquidex

[glennyo1981]

letro is too strong, u should get liquidex

i didnt mean to get the letro, im going to see if they will swap it out cause it didnt get sent yet