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    2nd Cycle – PCT advice needed

    Okay guys, this is my first post. I’ve spent the last couple of months scavenging this site for info, and i think i’ve got most of it sorted out. As you can see this is going to be my second cycle. My goal is for lean muscle mass and hardness.

    First up some info,
    24yrs
    6’1
    86kg (187lb)
    5 years training (on / off )
    BF 13%

    First Cycle, (23yrs)
    Test E 200mg (1ml) 1 – 10 weeks
    Deca 100mg (1ml) 1 – 10 weeks
    D’bols 25mg – 30 days

    No Pct. (i understand how stupid this was). It’s been 13 months since that cycle. Whilst on it, i went up to 101kg (222lb) from 81kg (178lb) but held ALOT of water. I ended up getting an injury (non related) which forced me to stop training for a couple of months and as you can see i pretty much lost most of it. So now i’m here to do things right and hopefully hold what i put on and to do so safely.

    So this is what i have in mind;

    Test E 200mg (1ml) x 2 (1 - 10 weeks)
    Tri-Tren 200mg (1ml) (1 – 10 weeks)

    – I acknowledge that this is my first Tren experience, and i do value everyone’s opinion, except its either this or Eq as my option.

    - also, would i use all 3mls in one go, or would i need to do Test-E & Tren 1 shot, than another Test-E 5 days later?

    So the help i need is basically to figure out a correct PCT before i start. The problem i experienced last time was that i obviously didn’t look into PCT, in fact i didn’t know what it was until visiting this site. Also, living in Australia its pretty hard to get your hands on this type of stuff, so im hoping i can get most of it from AR-R or any other site sponsor.

    Would something like this be okay?

    (Weeks 10 -14) 100mg of Clomid
    (Weeks 10 - 14) 25mg of Aromasin

    Any information i can get from anyone would be appreciated and received with an open mind.

    Thanks in advance.

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    No offense, but for only your second cycle and with your stats, there is no way you need to use tren . You could make great gains with test alone, or even naturally at your weight and height.

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    I would go with the clomid nolva combo from arr, and if you want an ai to run during cycle I would go with exemestane.

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    200 mg test E is a little lite for a cycle you might want to up it a little more like 400-500mg to get noticible results. I also think that at this stage there is no reason to add in the tren , save it until you have a few more cycles under your belt

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    okay, seems pretty consistent that I should hold onto the tren for a later cycle.

    is the bad sides the only reason for everyones suggestions?

    so if I stick to 400mg's of Test-E (2x1ml), would I still use Clomid and Nova as PCT? if so how long after the last inject?

    thanks for your replies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adonis_Complex View Post
    okay, seems pretty consistent that I should hold onto the tren for a later cycle.

    is the bad sides the only reason for everyones suggestions?

    so if I stick to 400mg's of Test-E (2x1ml), would I still use Clomid and Nova as PCT? if so how long after the last inject?

    thanks for your replies


    Your first cycle was very light, but your gains of of it were remarkable if accurate.

    What is your natty test levels now?

    Blood work would tell this.

    14 days after last test E injection, pct starts.

    Clomid=100/50/50/50
    Nolva=40/20/20/20

    Best

    T

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITANIUM View Post
    Your first cycle was very light, but your gains of of it were remarkable if accurate.

    What is your natty test levels now?

    Blood work would tell this.

    14 days after last test E injection, pct starts.

    Clomid=100/50/50/50
    Nolva=40/20/20/20

    Best

    T
    thanks for the reply Titanium. I didn't do any blood work before or after my cycle. This is something i definitely want to do for this one though.

    Clomid and Nolva be should be ED right?

    Thanks
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