sex drive

**johnCash** · 03-29-2010, 02:29 AM

i just did my first cycle of test and dball, and its been 4 months now since my pct, and my sex drive is still not back to normal. before the cycle my sex drive was great all day anyday and very hard, but now basically since the cycle im lucky to go once a day and its never that hard, and i can loose it easily too. and the gf is definately not happy.
so i was wondering if anybody has any advice on what to do?
will things go back to normal ?
or should i take something?

**bigpapabuff** · 03-29-2010, 12:35 PM

what did you do for your pct? How long did you run pct for? Maybe look into some liquid cia or liquid v for now.

**tboney** · 03-29-2010, 12:46 PM

What are your stats? age? cycle exp.? What compounds did you use?
What was your pct?

**johnCash** · 03-29-2010, 12:59 PM

hey thanks for the reply

im 25 5'11 175lbs
ive only done one cycle of
week 1-14 test 400 400-500 mg p/week
week 1-4 dball 30g p/day

pct
week 1-4 nolva 40/40/20/20

and i was planning on waiting till may to start my next cycle but i dont really want to start until everything is back to normal

**tboney** · 03-29-2010, 01:07 PM

Bro, you need to go get some blood work asap. That is the only difinitive way you are going to know whats going on.

You pct was incomplete. Why did you just use nolva?

**johnCash** · 03-29-2010, 01:15 PM

so i should get blood work done to see if my test is low? and possibly do another pct if its low?
i only did nolva cause i couldnt get clomid at the time.
i was told that clomid was not as important or optional bad advice i guess

**tboney** · 03-29-2010, 01:20 PM

Clomid and nolva are both serms...they both help with hpta recovery but they do it in different ways. I believe you need both.

So.. yes get some blood work. See where your levels are and then you can decide if you need to run another pct.... and for Gods sake have your "correct" ancillaries before you start your cycle!!

**johnCash** · 03-29-2010, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by tboney

Clomid and nolva are both serms...they both help with hpta recovery but they do it in different ways. I believe you need both.

.... and for Gods sake have your "correct" ancillaries before you start your cycle!!

ya i would agree with that, good advice lol

i actually got bloodwork done at the start of my cycle and never seen the results. but i didnt ask to see them either

**tboney** · 03-29-2010, 01:46 PM

Get the blood work and then post it. In the meantime, Get some cialis and that will should help you out in the bedroom.

**johnCash** · 03-29-2010, 01:46 PM

ok also i was planning on doing my next cycle at the start of may but if i have to pct again i wont be able to start for a few months until i recover.
so would it be a bad idea to just do a cycle and then recover after or should i definately recover now then think of cycling in 6 months?
i def dont want to mess up my nat. test in the long run.

**tboney** · 03-29-2010, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by johnCash

ok also i was planning on doing my next cycle at the start of may but if i have to pct again i wont be able to start for a few months until i recover.
so would it be a bad idea to just do a cycle and then recover after or should i definately recover now then think of cycling in 6 months?
i def dont want to mess up my nat. test in the long run.

Bro you are right, you dont want to mess up your natty test production, so for right now get the blood work. If you need to run another short pct then do that. Sometimes it can take months to recover.

If I were you, I would put the next cycle on hold until you are totally recovered. If you dont recover then thats a different story. You will need to cross that bridge when you come to it.

**johnCash** · 03-29-2010, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by tboney

Get the blood work and then post it. In the meantime, Get some cialis and that will should help you out in the bedroom.

is there any long term sides of taking viagra or cialis? are they the same? i was thinking about looking in to it cause it could definately help when u need it, but im still young i dont wana mess anything up for just doing one cycle

**johnCash** · 03-29-2010, 01:58 PM

is it even possible that this problem is not from low test levels though?
and am i just doing more damage now from being shut down for 3 month cycle then 5 months since?
my workouts arnt hurting tho. i didnt loose much if any strength coming off.

**tboney** · 03-29-2010, 02:00 PM

Do you have any medical conditions? Caridiac problems? Are you taking any nitrates??
If not then "no" cialis or viagra are safe. I prefer cialis because it is long acting gives me the freedom to be spontaneus about sex.

Ar-r carries it.

**tboney** · 03-29-2010, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by johnCash

is it even possible that this problem is not from low test levels though?
and am i just doing more damage now from being shut down for 3 month cycle then 5 months since?
my workouts arnt hurting tho. i didnt loose much if any strength coming off.

Yes, it could be from low test. Hence the blood work.

**johnCash** · 03-29-2010, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by tboney

Do you have any medical conditions? Caridiac problems? Are you taking any nitrates??
If not then "no" cialis or viagra are safe. I prefer cialis because it is long acting gives me the freedom to be spontaneus about sex.

Ar-r carries it.

no i have no medical conditions other than this and some thinning hair but the hair i can live with lol. what is a nitrates exactly? i just started taking expand nitric oxide/creatine. actually i have some allergies too but i dont think its related to my problem

what is ar-r ?

also do you think it would be a bad idea to start taking some nolva now b4 the bloodwork just to speed things up? it could be a week or 2 to get it done. that might sound stupid but would it hurt ?

**tboney** · 03-29-2010, 02:26 PM

The problem is that if you start clomid or nolva or both, it will affect your hormone levels and make it more difficult to identify the problem.

Yea you should have no problems with taking the cialis. At the top right hand side of this page there is a red banner AR-R . Click on it.

**johnCash** · 03-29-2010, 03:15 PM

what kind of pct would you recommend to do if its low test?
nolva, clomid hcg ?

can you take cialis during pct? or is it not recommended

**ghettoboyd** · 03-29-2010, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by johnCash

what kind of pct would you recommend to do if its low test?
nolva, clomid hcg ?

can you take cialis during pct? or is it not recommended

yes bro(abut the cialis) thats how a lot of peeps do it to get through the ed that sometimes comes post cycle...

**lovex** · 03-30-2010, 02:03 AM

first get blood work done....
Next time onwards..in your case i would advice u to include HCG in your Cycle(last 4 weeks).
Read & Research about PCT & HCG.
if u had a good PCT u would have saved lot more of your gains.

Just Forget about your Next Cycle atleast for 6~8 months...first u must recover.

**johnCash** · 03-31-2010, 09:25 PM

k got my docs appointment for next week, so it should take about 2 weeks to get the bloodwork done. we'll see how it goes. so if its low test what kind of pct should i use to fully recover?

**trix8** · 04-01-2010, 11:05 AM

Hey im in the same exact situation you are, did test and deca came off about 4 months ago with no post, i just ordered some clomid and nolva, anavar too but am putting it off prbably until i get my hormones normal. My sex drive has been shit since downhill after the first month off. Let me ask you somthing though do u have any weird feeling in either ur nuts??Also keep posted if u recover

**trix8** · 04-03-2010, 09:23 AM

nvm bout the feeling in the nut, doesnt have to do with roids at all. But its from lifting developing a hernia gotta do less weight. BUt still keep posted on recovery