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04-02-2010, 10:03 AM #1New Member
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PCT help with HCG use????
Could someone recommend a pct outline.
this is what i have HCG ,ClomiD ..
Last pin of test e in 10 days.Last edited by Regulator; 04-02-2010 at 04:26 PM.
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04-02-2010, 04:20 PM #2New Member
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So should i skip HCG since i havent used it during my cycle .
should i just run Clomid therapy 2 weeks after last pin of TEST ENAN?
I have searched and evrybody seems to have a different approach
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04-02-2010, 08:16 PM #3
yeh id just run the clomid 2 weeks after last test inj
dosage depends on how your cycle looked length and mgs/week ??
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04-04-2010, 09:23 AM #4New Member
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So skip the hcg and just use clomid.
is this correct.
For best results, it is best stacked with HCG (Human Chorionic gonadotrophin), which functions as an LH analog and can help bring testicle size back up. HCG use starts the last week of a cycle, and on from there every 5-6 days (usually 1500-3000 IU) and discontinued 1.5 to weeks prior to the cessation of clomid.Last edited by Regulator; 04-04-2010 at 09:36 AM.
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04-04-2010, 10:59 AM #5Member
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HCG is great for getting your testes to keep making some testosterone while on cycle, or get them making a bit near the end of a very long cycle.
Once you are off the shots, and you are ready for the clomid, HCG would then mess with the effectivness of the clomid on the HPTA.
Hence HCG use before Clomid use, not together.
I feel HCG is more useful for guys who for whatever reason are going to be on a very long cycle. Guys who cruise, or make a living based on their physical appearance and need to be on for lon periods of time. Even for guys on HRT who do not want to be perma-sterile.
IMHO, on cycles under 4 months long HCG is not really the important. Especially for Test-E and C which does not really start to ramp up its effects until week 5, so a 4 month cycle of C or E alone would be like a 3 month cycle where and oral or faster acting testosterone was used early on.
If you are worried at all you can run the clomid for 30 days, at a dose of 35 mg, and likely do just fine.
I think a lot of guys use too high of doses of the SERMs and get problems from it. There are only so many receptors on the hypothalimus to block Estradiol from.
Anything more what it takes to block E2 in the HPTA is just going to make you feel like crying.
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04-04-2010, 11:38 AM #6New Member
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