2nd Cycle. Need a PCT

[Jaybizzle]

I am currently on my second cycle but my first for 8 months or so.

I did'nt do a PCT after/during my first cycle and have only recently researched and realised that it's important that i sort out a PCT very soon.

If somebody could recommend a PCT that would be great or even just constructive comments

My current course per week is -

Test E - 400mg
Deca - 400ml
Sus - 500ml

Any help would be very appreciated and any flaming would not

Thanks

[ghettoboyd]

how bout some stats.....and for pct id do nolva/clomid regimine at least.....

[Jaybizzle]

Im 11st 9pds. 5'8ft

Not worked my Bodyfat % out recently.

Woah that reply was quick

[Tyler694]

My PCT is..

Nolva @ 40/20/20/20
Clomid @ 70/35/35/35

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I'm also curious about something, why 400mg test AND 500mg sust EW?

[HawaiianPride.]

Ah here we go again..

Alright dude. Why in the hell would you admnister exogenous drugs into your system without having the basic knowledge on the recovery program that should always be followed when cycling anabolic steroids?

[Jaybizzle]

Thanks for the Reply Tyler, will get hold of some asap

As for the dosages. They were the dosages recommended to me by a friend who is a long time juicer.

@ HawaiianPride. Im sure that you have never done anything without knowing the ins and outs of it in your entire life but im afraid some people just are not as perfect as you.

I realise that i should have done research before using steroids....hence the post. I am currently cramming my brain with as much info regarding PCT's/Steroids ect...

[HawaiianPride.]

Yeah, I'm going to pretend you attempted to make a smart ass remark and try to help you out.

As far as my PCT protocol and what has worked for me. I disregard the basic dosage of "50/50/50/50 clomiphene & 40/40/20/20 tamoxifene" and usually settle with 6 week recovery programs with smaller dosages. (depending on the duration of the AAS cycle)

I like to run:
Tore 120/100/60/60/30
Nolva 20/20/20/20/20

Clomid is effective, but the negative side effects over power the positive which is why I switched to Tore/Nolva combo in my case.

Check out the stickies (if you alread haven't). It WILL come in handy if you want to get the full benefits of your cycle.

-smartass.

[Jaybizzle]

Yes i was being a smartass but i just felt your comments were not very helpfull.

Im sure you are tired of seeing people post on these forums asking questions that are answered in other posts but i just did'nt fancy looking through every post looking for a PCT that was suitable.

I know that my current cycle is an unusual one. The reason is my first cylce was Sus/Deca but half the dosage per week. A long time juicer recommended that i add Test-E to my cycle and double the dosages of my previous cycle.

Also the reason for the inbalance in my dosages is because the Sus/Test-E come in 200mg Vials and the Deca comes in a 250mg bottle. In my original post i got the Sus/Deca dosages the wrong way around.

The people that i know that take steroids do not even know what a PCT is so i have taken advice from people who have no clue whatsoever.
The person i mentioned who recommended my dosages recently told me that he has never used any AI's/SERMS and that they are only for people who hammer the juice.....

Thanks for the advice so far chaps

[taiboxa]

Ah here we go again..

Alright dude. Why in the hell would you admnister exogenous drugs into your system without having the basic knowledge on the recovery program that should always be followed when cycling anabolic steroids?

arent pretty much all drugs exogenous?

[HawaiianPride.]

Yes i was being a smartass but i just felt your comments were not very helpfull.

Im sure you are tired of seeing people post on these forums asking questions that are answered in other posts but i just did'nt fancy looking through every post looking for a PCT that was suitable.

I know that my current cycle is an unusual one. The reason is my first cylce was Sus/Deca but half the dosage per week. A long time juicer recommended that i add Test-E to my cycle and double the dosages of my previous cycle.

Also the reason for the inbalance in my dosages is because the Sus/Test-E come in 200mg Vials and the Deca comes in a 250mg bottle. In my original post i got the Sus/Deca dosages the wrong way around.

The people that i know that take steroids do not even know what a PCT is so i have taken advice from people who have no clue whatsoever.
The person i mentioned who recommended my dosages recently told me that he has never used any AI's/SERMS and that they are only for people who hammer the juice.....

Thanks for the advice so far chaps

Nah I'm not tired of answering questions over and over. This is expected if you want to be a part of forum boards. I apologize though. Got my car towed yesterday and went to jail over something ridiculous. Got out and came on here to relieve some stress but obviously that didn't work well.

As far as doubling your dosage just because this is your second cycle and some guy that's been on juice for a while said so.. isn't really a wise idea. I know a few guys that swear by 5-600mg of test and have been cycling with that for years and still growing. If you find that 500mg of test a week is getting stale, adjust your diet first before increasing your dosage.

So, have you gone over those stickies yet?

[Jaybizzle]

No worrys mate, hope you get all that stuff sorted.

Iv not had chance to go over the all of the stickys yet but i have read a couple.
Only started really reading these forums the couple days ago but think i will stick with them as they have LOADS of info on a LOT of different aspects of Bodybuilding/steroids ect...

Iv read a lot of confusing info about lots of different AI's/Serms used for lots of different cycle's....it baffled me...

Ultimately i wanna find out how important the PCT is for keeping gains and stopping the side affects ect.
But im sure il find out all that info in the stickys

[Jaybizzle]

Just done some more research and realised i am taking 2 different types of Test i think (The Sus and the Test-E).

I could be wrong....

Is this quite a bad idea or just mabye a bad idea for a relatively new user such as myself (2nd cycle)

Also some feedback on how good this cycle is would be nice

[heres2ferrari]

Just done some more research and realised i am taking 2 different types of Test i think (The Sus and the Test-E).

I could be wrong....

Is this quite a bad idea or just mabye a bad idea for a relatively new user such as myself (2nd cycle)

Also some feedback on how good this cycle is would be nice

IMHO that is a hell of a lot of juice your on. And with the deca will shut you down hard.

[Jaybizzle]

IMHO that is a hell of a lot of juice your on. And with the deca will shut you down hard.

Yup, i kinda realised that after reading the stickys and posts here.

So i have dropped the Sus from my cycle now as a precaution and got myself some Tamoxifen and will be getting some Clomid very soon!