little confused..

[aussie09]

hey guys, im 24, ive never done a cycle and im still skeptical on whether im going to do it yet. I have been researching, but am a little confused.
Because ive never done a cycle im not sure if im prone to gyno right?

now if on my first cycle should i just use clomid and nolva?

im confused about letro? should i just use that alone, or with the others.

should i use hcg?

I am new to steriods but not new to training. I have been training for around 5 years, My diet and training is close to perfect, buttt after 5 years of natural training it gets a little hard to keep up with everyone else who is on it. Also my joints are beginning to ache.
I know what steriod im going to use, theres just so much info on pct, And this isn't somthing im just gunna jump straight into. thanks guys.

[2jz_calgary]

first cycle should consist of just test. Keep an ai on hand and use if needed. HCG can be used if you so choose to, it wont hurt you. Clomid and nolva are typically used for pct, letro is pretty strong and i doubt youll need it.

[aussie09]

Because this would be my first cycle i was only going to do a short one, just to see how i will react to it, say around 6 - 8 weeks?
would i need to use hcg for that length of course?
what would be a better test. prop? or enth?

I will order an AI, nolva and clom
i dont use the AI unless i begin to feel gyno coming on is that right?
And what doses will i need to take the nolva and clomid?

thanks heaps

[Fzzza]

you should go for bout 10 - 12 weeks

[freakinhuge]

liquid clomid and nolva for your pct should be fine, you could use an ai like exemestane if you are worried about gyno problems.

clomid 70/35/35/35
nolva 40/20/20/20

[aussie09]

okk so let me just gett this right.
im going to use prop and enth mixed for 4 weeks, then just enth for the final 4weeks.
then 2 weeks after my last shot of enth i start the clomid and nolva?

should i get an AI and just keep it on hand if i begin to feel gyno coming on?
i read that AI shouldnt be used when using nolva is that right?
and when should i start hcg?

[2jz_calgary]

hcg is usually done throughout the cycle and or the last 3 or 4 weeks of cycle. Read the stickie up top this section about hcg. Nolva can stop gyno as well as arimidex, its your choice. Test enth will take 4 weeks to kick in so keep that in mind

[aussie09]

hcg is usually done throughout the cycle and or the last 3 or 4 weeks of cycle. Read the stickie up top this section about hcg. Nolva can stop gyno as well as arimidex, its your choice. Test enth will take 4 weeks to kick in so keep that in mind

the reason i was going to mix in enth, is because i thought test prop korks really bad?
so if i did 10 weeks of test 500mg week.
run hcg through my course.
then depending on what test i run start nolva. and clomid?
after course is finished.
what dosage for nolva and clom?
i will also have a ai on hand if needed. should i use letro or stane?