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    Post Beginner help really needed - post cycle my test has completely shut down.

    Hi

    I've just finishing a course on test enanthate 400mg per week and equipoise 500mg per week that I was running for 16 weeks.

    I've nearly finished my course on Nolva and Clomid, and my testosterone levels are just completely non existant. for the past 3 weeks, I've been constantly ill (just colds and stuff), my sex drive has completely vanished, and i've lost all appetite.

    I've been told HCG is what I should to sort my testosterone out, and I've read up on this as well. But im trying to find advice on how I should take the HCG, i.e. injection form or tablet form, how much I should take and how long for, and what should I do with the course of nolva and clomid that I'm on currently? And encase I cant get any local, is there anywhere reccomended that sells it online? I'm trying to get hold of some as soon possible so i can be normal again.

    Any advice really would be appreciated.

    Cheers

    John

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    when did you finish the cycle, how long after the cycle did you start pct, and what specifically was your pct?

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    Thanks for your reply. I finished the cycle nearly 4 weeks ago, sorry i forgot to say that i finished on test cypionate (not enanthate), and i the last had injection of both test cypionate and equipoize exactly 2 weeks before starting pct.

    My pct was clomid and nolva 50, 50, 50 ed and 20, 20, 20 ed respectively for 3 weeks. I was then advised to bump both of the dosages up in hope of it bringing my testosterone levels back up. So in the final week ive done 100 clomid ed and 40 nolva ed. Got one more double dosage tomorrow then I was going to taper off back onto 50, 20 ed for a couple of weeks.

    But nothing has brought my test back up yet at all as to why I'm wondering how I can go about using HCG?

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    are you certain your pct meds are legit?

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    Well i think so, I've used them before, plus im onto my second pack of each now which are by a different manufacturer. So i dont know if that is the problem? But either way, its simply not bringing my natural test back, and I dont know how to go about fixing it?

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    your PCT is garbage dosing wise. 50mg/ED for 3 weeks of clomid and 20mg of nolv? Those doses will barely start you back up if not at all.
    should have been as followed.
    clomid 300mg & nolvadex 40mg days 1-5
    clomid 100mg & nolvadex 40mg days 6-14
    clomid 50mg & nolvadex 20mg days 15-28
    500-1000iu's HCG days 1-10 (running hcg during cycle makes recover alot easier)
    been doing my pct like this for a very long time even including when i do Tren Only's (tren only is not bad. DO NOT START with this please.)

    pm me and i will steer you in the right way on where to get everything.

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    just get some liquid pct chems from ar-r, very legit company and the board sponsor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inevitable View Post
    your PCT is garbage dosing wise. 50mg/ED for 3 weeks of clomid and 20mg of nolv? Those doses will barely start you back up if not at all.
    should have been as followed.
    clomid 300mg & nolvadex 40mg days 1-5
    clomid 100mg & nolvadex 40mg days 6-14
    clomid 50mg & nolvadex 20mg days 15-28
    500-1000iu's HCG days 1-10 (running hcg during cycle makes recover alot easier)
    been doing my pct like this for a very long time even including when i do Tren Only's (tren only is not bad. DO NOT START with this please.)

    pm me and i will steer you in the right way on where to get everything.
    Inevitible, where did you get the 1000iu a day hcg from? I'm curious cuz I've heard most endos will recommend that exact dosage and frequency. So do you run this the last 10 days of your cycle? Then for another another 18 days with nolva/clomid. I apologise to the op I didn't want to hijack here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louiscypher View Post
    Inevitible, where did you get the 1000iu a day hcg from? I'm curious cuz I've heard most endos will recommend that exact dosage and frequency. So do you run this the last 10 days of your cycle? Then for another another 18 days with nolva/clomid. I apologise to the op I didn't want to hijack here.
    Most Endo's if not all of them do not deal with AAS induced Hypogonadism.
    depending on the cycle depends on my dosage. Tren only cycle i run 250iu's x2/week then 1000iu/ED for days 1-10 days of my PCT.
    Proper PCT must be run, 18 days of pct is not suffice, atleast not in my eyes, I always run PCT for atleast 4 weeks.

    Clearly the OP is not all that concerned about his test axis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inevitable View Post
    Most Endo's if not all of them do not deal with AAS induced Hypogonadism.
    depending on the cycle depends on my dosage. Tren only cycle i run 250iu's x2/week then 1000iu/ED for days 1-10 days of my PCT.
    Proper PCT must be run, 18 days of pct is not suffice, atleast not in my eyes, I always run PCT for atleast 4 weeks.

    Clearly the OP is not all that concerned about his test axis.
    Sounds like a decent protocol. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louiscypher View Post
    Sounds like a decent protocol. Thanks.
    glad I could help.

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