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    Pct for 1st cycle/ help needed

    Cycle -
    Test enth - 10 weeks/500mg a week
    Proviron - 50mg ed/ 10 weeks

    Would a basic clomid/nolva for pct do. This is what i have planned now -

    Clomid - 100/50/50/50
    Nolva - 40/20/20/20

    I's it a good idea to use hcg during pct and how can i prevent testicular atrophy or keep it as little as possible during cycle. Thanks

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    PCT looks good.

    I'd use HCG on cycle at 250iu's 2-3 times a week.

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    Thanks for the reply. So should i use the hcg from the begining of the cycle all the to the end and not use it during pct or start it a certain amount of weeks into the cycle?

    My main goals are to prevent testicular atrophy as much as possible and have a full recovery and keep as much gains as possible after the cycle.

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    Honestly, I wouldn't even bother with HCG on a simple test cycle,

    but if you're that concerned about testicular atrophy,

    then, yah, you could run a low dose throughout the cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    Honestly, I wouldn't even bother with HCG on a simple test cycle,

    but if you're that concerned about testicular atrophy,

    then, yah, you could run a low dose throughout the cycle.
    Ok so if i was not to use it during the cycle then should i use it after the cycle during pct? Sorry for all the questions, just want the cycle and recovery to be perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbjuicer10 View Post
    Ok so if i was not to use it during the cycle then should i use it after the cycle during pct? Sorry for all the questions, just want the cycle and recovery to be perfect.
    No. if you're going to use HCG I suggest to use it on cycle.

    If you're not going to use it, then just use SERMs for PCT and you'll be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    No. if you're going to use HCG I suggest to use it on cycle.

    If you're not going to use it, then just use SERMs for PCT and you'll be fine.
    Do you think the proviron at 50mg ed is enough to lower the estrogen as i am gyno prone?

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    I would prefer to use an AI to control E while on cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    I would prefer to use an AI to control E while on cycle.
    From what iv'e read up it says that proviron is a effective AI that's why i choose it to use during the cycle and it's suppose to work along with test.

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    I'm not saying your wrong,

    just giving you my opinion.

    I'd rather use an AI

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbjuicer10 View Post
    From what iv'e read up it says that proviron is a effective AI that's why i choose it to use during the cycle and it's suppose to work along with test.
    its not known for that.. although it does have some of those qualities.. proviron is good to run with test.. as im sure you already read in the profile.. have some arimidex on hand incase you need it that is a popular anti inhibator..

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    I'm not saying your wrong,

    just giving you my opinion.

    I'd rather use an AI
    Just read about proviron on here and i guess it is a AI but just a weak one and the arimidex would be a better choice from what iv'e read about that. If i were to use the arimidex at what dose should i run it at for best results and not lowering the estrogen to much that it causes it's own side effects?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbjuicer10 View Post
    Just read about proviron on here and i guess it is a AI but just a weak one and the arimidex would be a better choice from what iv'e read about that. If i were to use the arimidex at what dose should i run it at for best results and not lowering the estrogen to much that it causes it's own side effects?
    .25mg EOD would be a good starting point.

    you can adjust it from there.

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    I can get the arimidex in 1mg tabs. Should i break them into 4 pieces to get that dose?

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    ^you got it!

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    Thanks for the anwering the questions, helped alot.

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    Im going to be starting the test hopefully tomorrow or wednesday at the latest. Ill be getting arimidex but don't plan to start it at the start of the cycle and only if it's needed i will. Does the same dose apply during the cycle which is .25mg eod if problems were do arise and the same for hcg , would that be 250iu every 3 days or a larger dose.

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    Bump.

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    I should've got your stats before it got this far.

    You're way too young to cycle, and you should take the advice given you in this thread:

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=440147

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    I should've got your stats before it got this far.

    You're way too young to cycle, and you should take the advice given you in this thread:

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=440147
    And like i said in the thread, my gains have slowed down and that's with training different, diet changes, supplement usage. I aint really had any growth in 2 years.

    Iv'e started my cycle.

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    I don't see why people are the way they are with younger people running aas. My cousin started using them when he was 15, he's my age now and still using. All his bloodwork comes back fine after his cycles.

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    if your looking for an ai, look at exemestane to run during cycle.

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