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09-05-2010, 10:39 PM #1New Member
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First 10 week cycle of test e-running only Nolva..is this enough??
I will be using Test E @ 500mg/weekly with 250mg on Mon and Thursday for 10 weeks.
I want to know if this is a good way to take Nolva 20mg.
On week 6-week 10 take 20mg on MWF
week 11-13 take 20mg everyday
Week 14 take 20mg on MWF
Mind you, this is my first cycle.
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09-05-2010, 10:43 PM #2
You don't need Nolva during your cycle. You are using an AI.
PCT is insufficient.
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09-05-2010, 10:47 PM #3New Member
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Everyone I spoke to said that I do not need Clomid and Nolva for my PCT. They said to take Nolva during the cycle to prevent too much water rentention and gyno effects. I might not even use Nolva till week 10 if there are no signs of gyno and not too much shrinkage.
If you think I need Clomid as well, please tell me how much and when I should take it with Nolva.
Here is my cycle log which I will be updating daily starting next week.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=1#post5345533
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09-05-2010, 11:18 PM #4New Member
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Would this be better:
Weeks 10-14: 20mg of Nolva daily
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09-05-2010, 11:23 PM #5
You are using an AI! That helps with retention and Gyno bro... The Nolva in conjunction with this is not necessary...
Basic protocol for Test only cycles..
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Get blood work a few weeks post PCT
Those of which said you don't need 2 SERMS during PCT don't even know if you are cabable of being restored 100% via Nolva standalone.
I know guys who can recovery well off 1 SERM. But you will only know if you can if you tested it and got blood work. In which case there is a good chance you won't bounce back fully and you'll have to run 2 recovery protocols. Not worth the risk IMO. 2 SERMS are better than 1.
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09-05-2010, 11:43 PM #6New Member
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Three guys that I personally know ran Nolva 20mg everyday for weeks 10-14 and said it was fine. I know you said that it is different for everybody and that some might bounce back. But, I have read several pieces that say Nolva inconjunction with Clomid is not necessary.
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09-05-2010, 11:50 PM #7
If it worked for them then it must work for you, that's what your saying here.
I don't see an issue in running 2 SERMS and expecting a guaranteed full restoration then half assing it and hoping it works because a couple other guys said it worked.
Good luck, I'm done.
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09-06-2010, 01:29 AM #8
if u HAVE to just run nolva for pct, i would run it for 6 weeks like 40/40/20/20/20/20 just to be safe... but yeah 2 would be better then 1 like HP said.
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09-06-2010, 12:47 PM #9New Member
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HP,
Im gonna take your advice and route. My question is do I start on week 10 with my last injection or do I start the following week on week 11? There are so many conflicting arguments about when to start. Some say for test e wait 14 days after last injection and start, and some say start right away after last injection. I know the half life is 14 days for enan, so I can understand why they say wait 14 days, but wouldn't it be bettet to start right away to restore my body quicker and keep most of my gains
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09-06-2010, 12:50 PM #10
*Updated PCT Start Times, PLEASE READ*
Begin treatment when the ester has dropped and use the above for reference.
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