Too late for pct?? HELP PLZ

[Gstaa5]

First off

Stats:

Weight 177
Age 25
Height 5* 10
BF% 6%
Lifting experience 3 years plus

Okay So i just got off a 6 week cycle of test prop / winstrol

Test Prop: 100 mgs Eod
Winstrol Oral: 75 mgs a day

My Cycle ended about 3 weeks ago and i have been taking an OTC pct called rage RV1 I started pct the day i ended my cycle

Since my cycle has finished i have been having some ed problems:

My erection is very soft
I cannot go two rounds (my girlfriend is pissed)
I do not wake up with morning wood anymore.

This is a very emabarassing problem but i need to fix it i know i was supposed to start tamox 2 days after last injection it has been 3 weeks and i have only been taking the otc pct

Is it too late to take the tamoxifen ?

Or should i run full pct still?

Thanks you

[HawaiianPride.]

Get on Clomid and Nolva immediately. Follow this up with blood work a few weeks post-PCT

Learn how to cycle properly.
Bring your weight up 20-30lbs naturally before you even consider cycling again.
Make sure you have all SERMS on hand before you get your gear next time.
Read the educational threads.

[Spartans09]

I would also keep cialis or Viagra on hand. Even with proper pct the libido and functionality can roller coaster a bit.

[Gstaa5]

Get on Clomid and Nolva immediately. Follow this up with blood work a few weeks post-PCT

Learn how to cycle properly.
Bring your weight up 20-30lbs naturally before you even consider cycling again.
Make sure you have all SERMS on hand before you get your gear next time.
Read the educational threads.

If i don't have enough money to get both. Should i run tamoxifen of Clomid?

Thank u for the quick responses

[PistolStarta]

Dude, find the extra money. If your that strapped for cash sell something. Its your penis for gods sake.

[Gstaa5]

Dude, find the extra money. If your that strapped for cash sell something. Its your penis for gods sake.

Okay,

I "Need" both??. I'm also taking a OTC Post cycle called rage RV1 as well here are the ingredients:
Tribulus Terrestris 250 mg Grape Seed Extract 95% 50 mg 6-Bromoandrostenedione 20 mg 3, 17 keto-etiochol-triene 20 mg Other Ingredients: Rice Flour, Magnesium Stearate

[Gstaa5]

Rage RV1 ingriedients i'm taking 3x's a day

Anti-Estrogen Complex: 55mg
-3,17 keto-etiochol-triene, 6-bromodiene, grapeseed extract 95%

Liver Protection Complex: 150mg
-N Acetyl cysteine, Milk Thistle 80%

Natural Pro Test Complex: 225mg
-Tribulus Terrestris 40%, Fenugreek extract,
Eurycoma longifolia 100:1

Prostate Complex: 143mg
-Saw Palmetto Extract, Stinging nettle root,
lycopene, selenium

Heart Health Complex: 120mg
CoQ10, Red Yeast Rice, Vitamin B3

[PistolStarta]

Yea all that in the long run is worthless in your recovery.

[rocco-x]

Yea all that in the long run is worthless in your recovery.

i was about to say the same thing.all those big medical words look impressive but in reality otc shit sucks ass in place of true aas/ancillary meds.i am surprised tho that you ended your cycle in only 8 weeks.did you see any gains at all from it?imho i wouldn't have done anything until i reached at least 200+ lbs,but that's just me.i hope you got something from this cycle since you're going thru all this.next time try a longer ester and have all your ai/ae/pct stuff on hand BEFORE you start.
i know it's hard not to do it once you've got it in your hands,i bet we all have at one point or another,but it's well worth it in the long run to wait until everything is in.good luck

[Gstaa5]

i was about to say the same thing.all those big medical words look impressive but in reality otc shit sucks ass in place of true aas/ancillary meds.i am surprised tho that you ended your cycle in only 8 weeks.did you see any gains at all from it?imho i wouldn't have done anything until i reached at least 200+ lbs,but that's just me.i hope you got something from this cycle since you're going thru all this.next time try a longer ester and have all your ai/ae/pct stuff on hand BEFORE you start.
i know it's hard not to do it once you've got it in your hands,i bet we all have at one point or another,but it's well worth it in the long run to wait until everything is in.good luck

You say use a longer ester, Since i used test prop with a shorter ester is it still worth running a full pct?

[Gstaa5]

Get on Clomid and Nolva immediately. Follow this up with blood work a few weeks post-PCT

Learn how to cycle properly.
Bring your weight up 20-30lbs naturally before you even consider cycling again.
Make sure you have all SERMS on hand before you get your gear next time.
Read the educational threads.

When i get on nolva and clomid should i expect my libido to get better right away?

I'm also going to get the liquid varden to help as well. Has anybody used this?

[PistolStarta]

I have some but havent used it, should work fine. No, your libido will take alittle time. It's hughly unlikely it'll kick right back if its not started on its own.

[Gstaa5]

I have some but havent used it, should work fine. No, your libido will take alittle time. It's hughly unlikely it'll kick right back if its not started on its own.

How long does it usually take?

[PistolStarta]

everyone differs man

[Gstaa5]

I ordered nolva clomid and liquid varden.

I also have a doctors appt in the morning to get my levels checked and see what he recommends i will give an update tomorrow after my appointment

[PistolStarta]

if its your general practicioner he probably wont give good advice.

[livingwithdoms]

forget about the otc pct chems, you need real clomid and nolva to recover.

[Gstaa5]

if its your general practicioner he probably wont give good advice.

So i went to the doc. He said that everything is fine he said that it wouldn't hurt to run a full pct & it could bring my levels back to normal quicker.

But he suggested that my levels will come back with time & i should go all natural.

What does everyone suggest?

[PistolStarta]

Yea, and I'm guessing he didn't even venture a guess as to how long either.

[Gstaa5]

Yea, and I'm guessing he didn't even venture a guess as to how long either.

He said a few weeks. i got my research chems today

I'm going to run a full pct so i'm thinkin

clomid 70/35/35/35
nolva 40/20/20/20

Does that look right?

[Gstaa5]

clomid 70/35/35/35
nolva 40/20/20/20

Does that look right?

[Gstaa5]

I appreciate everyones advice! can someone please tell me yes or no on this so i can get started


clomid 70/35/35/35
nolva 40/20/20/20

Does that look right?

[HawaiianPride.]

That's fine.