clomid/tamox... why both

[kleaver]

why is it necessary to use both tamoxifin and clomidiphene in pct. it seems like one serm would be sufficient, and if you had some gyno, maybe pick the tamox.

can anyone explain the science behind stacking the serms? or point out the thread that i haven't been able to find.

what kills me is i could end up spending more on hcg/serms/ai than on the actual gear... which is fine because i'd rather have a good recovery, tissue maintenance, and hpta function.

on a side note, the pct that i'm most familiar with is
week 1&2: clomid 50mg/ed, tamox 40mg/ed
week 3&4: clomid 25mg/ed, tamox 20mg/ed

[TheMemoryRemains]

Stacking serm's is better maitenence for certain sides, clomid and tamox(nolvadex) both accomplish different things so I wouldnt consider it as "stacking" unless its working on one or more of the same specific type of sides.

clomid - sex oreinted
nolva - gyno, test lvls, bloat from water retention, quick recoveries, protects liver (almost a must to run with)

But if you werent having any sexual hormone side effects, then clomid can be dropped.... my .02

[jay007]

im going to be 50mgs of clomids and 50mgs of novaldex for pct a day for 4 weeks. when can i expect my libido to come back and my balls drop?

[covert025]

Depends on the person. My libido is actually lower when I am still running clomid. Expect some decent recovery of androgens by day 14-21 if running clomid.

And yes, good idea to drop clomid before day 21.

[TheMemoryRemains]

im going to be 50mgs of clomids and 50mgs of novaldex for pct a day for 4 weeks. when can i expect my libido to come back and my balls drop?

Yes.
40/40/20/20 nolva
50/50/25/25 clomid

Thats most common not knowing your stats.

[livingwithdoms]

I like to go with

clomi - 70/70/35/35
nolva - 40/40/20/20

[TheMemoryRemains]

I like to go with

clomi - 70/70/35/35
nolva - 40/40/20/20

Have you had erectile or libido problems after/during cycle/PCT? or did you just take clomid for caution?

[jay007]

just libino problems...it works i just hqve no desire to use it.

[CaliburKid]

Clomid & Nolva? Serms. Do you think an AI would also be considered as well? So like Tamox and say Proviron? Or could one actually PCT all three after a cycle (Tamox/Clomid/Proviron)?