PCT for serious cycle

[carbman]

Hey guys! Im just about to start my first cycle and my stats are
BW: 160lb
Height: about 5'10
Training years: 5
BF: 10 %
Age: 22

Cycle

Test E 500mg /w for 10 weeks (1000mg for first two weeks)
dbol 40-50 mg ed for 4 weeks as a kick-start
Test prop 100mg eod for last two weeks (weeks 10-12)
Adex .25 mg eod to start with
HCG 250 IU two times a week to start with


weeks 11-12
test prop 100mg eod + hcg 500 ed + nolva 20mg ed

week 13
Hcg 500 IU ed + nolva 20mg ed + clomid 50 mg ed + vit C 3g ed

The real PCT:

weeks 14-18
nolva 20 ed + clomid 50mg ed + aromasin 25 mg ed (3 weeks) + vit C 3 g ed

Do I have to taper nolva and clomid or can I use them like this??
Does it suffice if I use nolva 10 mg ed in weeks 11-13 for the sake of hcg?
Does anyone see any bad errors with this?
Thanks a lot!

[teddykgb29]

I would go with

clomid 70/70/35/35
nolva 40/40/20/20

And I would run aromasin throughout your cycle. no need to have it in with pct.

[marcus300]

You dont need steroids at your age or your weight, all you need is food, do some research on the damage steroids can do to someone your age and also more importantly go to the diet section and read how to bulk. You need to build a base first and your yrs away from that, even if you took steroids it would be pointless because you would lose all gains after the cycle because you dont have a diet to support any kind of muscle, sort your diet out for the next 2 yrs and then resconsider. Best of luck

[terraj]

I would go with

clomid 70/70/35/35
nolva 40/40/20/20

And I would run aromasin throughout your cycle. no need to have it in with pct.

He is 160 pounds @ 5'10" man!!

[carbman]

Thanks your replies but I will make my own decisions. You don't know how I eat or how hard I have been training.. And I also have done my research quite well.. I just ended my long diet in which I lost 15 pounds so right now I'm in pretty good shape. I don't drink alcohol, I never eat fast food and I ****ing measure all my foods I eat ( now 4000 kcal a day) and when I start my cycle I will eat 4500-5000 kcal a day and you say I don't eat enough?? And god damn I know which makros to eat and when... And I have taken my BW before and will take during and after the cycle.. I know you just want the best for me (maybe ) but I have made my mind.. So just give me thouhts about this cycle if you want to write something or else don't write anything.. You can ask things about me but don't judge because you don't know me well enough to judge...

[D7M]

We're not judging you as a person, just your stats.

5'10 and 160lbs (and you just lost 15?) at 22 yrs old is no where near ready to start a cycle.

You'll be terribly disappointed with this cycle, since you clearly haven't learned how to eat to put on muscle.

[carbman]

ok I understand your point so I guess I won't get any help from you guys.. And my current weight is 80kg => 177lb, sorry I'm from Europe so I'm not familiar with pounds and I didn't get them right at first.. So I have 17 pounds more than you though but you won't change your mind I guess.. So I put this way: I will go for this cycle and after 4-5 months i will tell shoul I have listened you or not.. and my height is 174cm =>5'7 I just couldn't get this right either..Sorry for my errors my memory is not the best...

[psa]

This isn't a SERIOUS cycle, its just some test and dbol. And with that being said theres a lot of stuff wrong here.

You dont need to load for that long. Just frontload your first shot with a gram of enth and your blood levels will be a saturated with test faster. Then resume with your regular pinning pattern, which should be 250mg E3D.

Start shooting the HCG during your enth cycle on around week 3, E4D. Being on HCG for too long will have negative effects. Stop running it 2 weeks before you start PCT.

Why are you taking novla and that much HCG during weeks 11 and 12? Drop both of them.

You have a pretend and real PCT?? Start PCT on week 13, day 5, when the prop has left your system (the enth will have already been gone)

Your making PCT way to complicated. Why not just do a 40/40/20/20 with Nolva?