On cycle for 3 years with no break. NEED DEPERATE HELP!!! PLEASE>

**Payton34ferrari** · 01-27-2016, 10:26 PM

Hello, let me start by talking full responsibility for my idiotic decision to stay on cycle for 3 years with no break. I am obviously paying for it now; but I need your help desperately. Here are the facts:

Been on for 3 years with no break
Took hcg twice a week 350 mg each time
Armidex .5 daily
I would go about 10 weeks & switch to another kind of test (sometimes Test p, then switch to test- e, then switch to cypinate) 1cc each time
70 % of the time I would use the test with another 1 cc of something else (deca , anavar , some kind of mixed blend, etc. totally careless.
I don't have blood work, but I got my sperm checked out at year 2 to see if I could have kids & the results were: decreased concentration (lower 10% of people) everything else was fine.
I went to an endocrinologist & told my story; he told me to drop to 1cc once a week of test c. I had little confidence in this doctor & have been unable to find a doctor that had experience dealing with a situation (since I'm obviously an idiot & few people would do this).
I have ED bad. My balls have decreased in size & sometimes they literally go up into my body & out of my sack. I take the blue pill which works sometimes, but not well. I have to be really & I mean REALLY turned on for any chance at an erection lasting longer than 10 seconds. Totally embarrassing; I'm paying for my stupidity constantly.
I don't know what to do; should I start some sort of pct? I am clueless. I see all the regular PCT's but what do I do? Can I every get my natural levels back or will I be on trT forever? I read a story about a bodybuilder who went 11 years without stopping. They gave him a shot of a medicine (begins with a "t" but I can't remember the name-apparently it helped to shock his system back-if you use too much of this stuff it may castrate you. Scary. Not that you would ever me in my shoes; but what would you do if you were me? I'm stupid; I know, but I am a guy who really wants to get healthy & do the right thing. I really appreciate anyone with experience help; I'll be watching the replys like a hawk. I literally live in fear about what I've done to myself. Thanks

**Back In Black** · 01-28-2016, 01:50 AM

You can try Dr Scallys power PCT, google it.

However, you will likely be in for a very bumpy ride and I fear it's likely that TRT will be in your very near future.

How old are you?

**kelkel** · 01-28-2016, 08:43 AM

Agree with BIB. Scally's protocol then maybe a longer ride with clomid. The "T" item you're referring to is Triptorelin which can be used for restart purposes or for chemical castration if over-used......

**Payton34ferrari** · 01-28-2016, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Agree with BIB. Scally's protocol then maybe a longer ride with clomid. The "T" item you're referring to is Triptorelin which can be used for restart purposes or for chemical castration if over-used......

Thank you for your reply. I will check out what you suggested. I am 34 to answer your question. Should I be seeking triptorelin to make it easier? If I have to go the route of trt forever; am I basically going to live with ED & decreased testes size forever? I've definitely done a number on my sex life. My initial Incentive for doing this was to increase my sex life & I may have screwed myself for life. If anyone has any suggestions beyond scally's or in addition to I would appreciate it greatly. What about the triptorelin?

**Payton34ferrari** · 01-28-2016, 04:42 PM

Guys, I am going to get a blood test tomorrow. What should I have them test for? What info would we need to get a better idea of what is going on & what to do? I took 1cc test-p & 1cc of deca Monday. Thanks again

**kelkel** · 01-28-2016, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Payton34ferrari

Thank you for your reply. I will check out what you suggested. I am 34 to answer your question. Should I be seeking triptorelin to make it easier? If I have to go the route of trt forever; am I basically going to live with ED & decreased testes size forever? I've definitely done a number on my sex life. My initial Incentive for doing this was to increase my sex life & I may have screwed myself for life. If anyone has any suggestions beyond scally's or in addition to I would appreciate it greatly. What about the triptorelin?

I would not encourage using Triptorelin. Nothing says you are destined to live with ED. Getting your hormones back in balance can make a dramatic difference but it will take time and there may very well be bumps in the road. Testicular size is really only aesthetic. Regarding size it may return upon successfully restarting your HPTA but there's no guarantee.

When it comes to blood work, getting it now will do nothing to enlighten you regarding hormones as you're shut down. Checking other aspects like CBC's, CMP's, Lipids, etc. is always a good idea.

There really are no other ideas imho. You need to try and restart your HPTA either on your own or with a doctor. This will take time, patience and recurrent BW. A good list of BW is in the HRT Forum in the Finding A Doc sticky thread.

If possible update this thread please. We all learn from these events.

**Mr.BB** · 01-28-2016, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Payton34ferrari

Guys, I am going to get a blood test tomorrow. What should I have them test for? What info would we need to get a better idea of what is going on & what to do? I took 1cc test-p & 1cc of deca Monday. Thanks again

Stop taking any type of steroids except testosterone .

And take it low dosage, 100-150mgs per week.

Then you need to decide if you want to stop and see if you are able to, you might need TRT.

You need to check sensitive e2, prolactin, shbg, CBC, lipids, liver and kidneys panels.