PCT After Long Cycle

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06-13-2011, 08:38 AM
RoidReaper

PCT After Long Cycle

Im sure most of you have read my thread of me being on cycle quite a few times. Anyways i wanted to ask if i should do this.

Ok so i was on cycle for about a year, pretty much just test, however i have thrown in compounds here and there, (Deca, Tren, winny etc) for a diff look.

Here is my PCT

I took 1 shot of Triptorelin 100mcg (Hopefully this works)

Followed by 120mg of torem ED.

Im going to run the 120mg for 2 weeks instead of just one, seeing as i was on for a while.

Should i throw in 50mg of clomid as well?

Also going to be using 10iu of GH ed for the next month along with IGF-1 and MGF. I want to get some hyperplasia during PCT.

Praying for recovery. Help me out guys what else should i do?

I do plan on getting bloodwork done in a month. I just hope the GnRH actually works, and i hope the Torem at that dose would be enough.

So im planning this:

Torem- 120/120/90/90
Clomid- 50/50/50/50

If you guys reccomend that of course, that seems like a nice aggressive PCT.

I didnt run HCG before because i heard it wasnt necesarry if i was going to use the Triptorelin. And i also heard those 2 shouldnt be mixed due to severe LH stimulation.

I took my shot of Triptorelin last wednesday, not really feeling much yet, should i give it more time? Or should i have felt a huge increase in energy or something by now?

Do i need to take another shot of GnRH? let me know guys plz thanks.

Because i dont have much of a drive... I have cialis and shit, so thats whatever. But i dont feel a drive, and people have been telling me that your suppose to feel some sort of drive.

I was going to use some HMG but since i already took the shot of GnRH would that be a good idea?
06-13-2011, 09:20 AM
Windex

Am I understanding that you were shut down for an entire year? This is what swifto recommends btw as an aggressive PCT (4 weeks is definitely not enough):

3. Aggressive PCT (shutdown for 16-52+ weeks)

wk 1-8 Tamox 20mg/ED (40mg/ED first 7 days)
wk 1-8 Tore 60mg/ED (120mg/ED first 14 days, 100mg/ED next 7 days)
*HCG 250ius 2-3 times/wk (on cycle, every 8-10 weeks take a 2-3 week break [E2/PgR])
*HCG should also be ramped to 500ius 14-21 days from PCT
*Aromasin 10mg/EOD (on cycle)
06-13-2011, 09:27 AM
RoidReaper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windex

Am I understanding that you were shut down for an entire year? This is what swifto recommends btw as an aggressive PCT (4 weeks is definitely not enough):

3. Aggressive PCT (shutdown for 16-52+ weeks)

wk 1-8 Tamox 20mg/ED (40mg/ED first 7 days)
wk 1-8 Tore 60mg/ED (120mg/ED first 14 days, 100mg/ED next 7 days)
*HCG 250ius 2-3 times/wk (on cycle, every 8-10 weeks take a 2-3 week break [E2/PgR])
*HCG should also be ramped to 500ius 14-21 days from PCT
*Aromasin 10mg/EOD (on cycle)

K well i already came off, ill do the 8 weeks with the nolvadex. I didnt run HCG due to the Triptorelin Shot

I did hit the Triptorelin 100mcg.

And yes for a year about, i took frequent breaks (4wks) here and there, but never really let myself FULLY recover.

So, run Tamox WITH Torem?
06-13-2011, 09:55 AM
Windex

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoidReaper

K well i already came off, ill do the 8 weeks with the nolvadex. I didnt run HCG due to the Triptorelin Shot

I did hit the Triptorelin 100mcg.

And yes for a year about, i took frequent breaks (4wks) here and there, but never really let myself FULLY recover.

So, run Tamox WITH Torem?

Yes definitely. And get bloodwork done 4-6 weeks after PCT. If your still not recovered it might another 4 weeks perhaps of PCT after the bloodwork comes back. Why did you cycle for so long ?
06-13-2011, 01:25 PM
RoidReaper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windex

Yes definitely. And get bloodwork done 4-6 weeks after PCT. If your still not recovered it might another 4 weeks perhaps of PCT after the bloodwork comes back. Why did you cycle for so long ?

Just dumb ass decisions man. Scared to come off and lose muscle. Stress, i had a alot of stress in my life and juice was my band-aid. No excuses for it, it was retarded. But anyways as far as GH? 10iu a day should keep the muscle on?
06-13-2011, 03:42 PM
Windex

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoidReaper

Just dumb ass decisions man. Scared to come off and lose muscle. Stress, i had a alot of stress in my life and juice was my band-aid. No excuses for it, it was retarded. But anyways as far as GH? 10iu a day should keep the muscle on?

A clean bulk would possibly suffice. 7 IU could be more reasonable although my HGH research is minimal so I'd perhaps inquire in the HGH Forum.
06-13-2011, 04:50 PM
RoidReaper

A clean bulk? So what your saying is 10iu of GH with 100mcg of IGF-1 a day will keep the LBM on me?
06-13-2011, 05:21 PM
Windex

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoidReaper

A clean bulk? So what your saying is 10iu of GH with 100mcg of IGF-1 a day will keep the LBM on me?

I think your diet component will play a bigger role in preserving LBM. Also, some members cycle HGH @ 10 IU so if your looking for a "cruising" dose I believe you would want to lower it again. Again, I'm not as well versed as some others here so definitely take my advice with a grain of salt and possibly PM a vet such as Marcus or whoever. In any case, you definitely want a calorie surplus to keep your muscle.
06-13-2011, 07:22 PM
RoidReaper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windex

I think your diet component will play a bigger role in preserving LBM. Also, some members cycle HGH @ 10 IU so if your looking for a "cruising" dose I believe you would want to lower it again. Again, I'm not as well versed as some others here so definitely take my advice with a grain of salt and possibly PM a vet such as Marcus or whoever. In any case, you definitely want a calorie surplus to keep your muscle.

I know this dude, im eating 4500-5000 calories a day, im talking supplement wise.

Anyways TODAY WAS AWESOME

6iu of GH when i woke up
Later on before the gym i did IGF-1 DES 100mcg, (50 in each tricep)
Went to the gym and everyone was coming up towards me asking me what the **** i was taking lol, and im OFF AAS right now, just using peptides, however my strength is down a little bit but my pumps are better than ever.

Came home and shot 100mcg of LR3 (50 each shoulder) and MGF (100mcg in each pec)

Its going good so far, hope it stays.
06-13-2011, 07:30 PM
Windex

Are you doing any insulin as well by the way ?
06-13-2011, 08:09 PM
RoidReaper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windex

Are you doing any insulin as well by the way ?

No i was going to, but im scared to get diabetes lol. Id rather die than get diabetes.
06-13-2011, 08:55 PM
RoidReaper

A reason i dont want to add nolva is due to its supposedly IGF-1 Lowering properties..

Ill probably go Clomid instead.
06-14-2011, 12:36 PM
Windex

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoidReaper

A reason i dont want to add nolva is due to its supposedly IGF-1 Lowering properties..

Ill probably go Clomid instead.

I think Torem might be better ?
06-15-2011, 01:50 PM
RoidReaper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windex

I think Torem might be better ?

Swifto suggested i take 2 SERMs, so my choice will be Torem 120/90/90/60 and Clomid 50/50/50/50