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    bio-diesel is offline New Member
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    PCT thoughts on 3rd cycle

    Whats up fellas Im 24 y/o 6' 4" 225 16% bf looking to cut and lean gain on a short cycle.

    1-4 Oral Tren 1 mg ED
    1-4 Test PhenylProp 125mgs/E3D
    1-5 TBOL 50 mg/ED

    Do I need to run HCG or adex or Exemestane during the cycle or will standard Nolva/Clomid stack suffice?

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    lets have some stats bro? is this your first cycle?...

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    oops i just re read you title its your third cycle.. my bad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bio-diesel View Post
    Whats up fellas Im 24 y/o 6' 4" 225 16% bf looking to cut and lean gain on a short cycle.

    1-4 Oral Tren 1 mg ED
    1-4 Test PhenylProp 125mgs/E3D
    1-5 TBOL 50 mg/ED

    Do I need to run HCG or adex or Exemestane during the cycle or will standard Nolva/Clomid stack suffice?
    Cutting is determined by diet and cardio, not how juice you take. 3 cycles deep @ 24 years old sounds like you definitely need some bloodwork done.

    What were your two previous cycles and what on-cycle and post cycle therapy did you follow ?

    In addition, I think your cycle is too short. I would up to 6-8 weeks and drop TBol. Oral tren is really harmful on the liver and your already doing an oral. Replace Oral tren with Anavar , Winstrol , or Tren Ace.

    Yes HCG should always be run along with an AI. If I was in your shoes this is how I would cycle after getting bloodwork done AND cutting down the bodyfat to 12-14%.

    Week 1-8 Test Prop 350 mg/wk
    Week 1-6 Tren Ace 350 mg/wk OR Week 4-8 Winstrol 50mg/day OR Week 1-8 Anavar @ 50-70mg/day
    Week 1-8 HCG (500 IU's injected 2x 250 IU/week)
    Week 1-8 Aromasin 10 mg/EOD OR Armidex 0.25 / 0.50 mg/EOD

    PCT Starting 4 days after last prop injection:

    Week 1-4: Nolva 40/40/20/20
    Week 1-4: Torem 60/60/60/60 OR Clomid: 50/50/25/25




    Get the following bloodwork done FIRST :

    - Free and Total Testosterone
    - Estradiol
    - FSH
    - LH
    - Prolactin
    - SHBG

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