pct idea

[Lemonada8]

what are everyones thoughts on this pct?

hcg during cycle at 250iu or 500iu , 2x week then first day of pct 1000iu.

clomid 50mg ed for 2 weeks
tore 120/120/60/60 or nolva 40/40/20/20
with tore being first choice.

[Lemonada8]

HCG during cycle to keep ITT up at a decent volume which increases recovery.

then the bolus of HCG on the first day of PCT to help boost everything because the systemic test should be lowering to subnormal amounts.

the clomid for its antagonistic actions at the pit, which inhibits E from binding while still tellin the pit the receptor isnt bound so it increases test.
however clomid does lower GnRH sensativity and LH responsiveness so thats why stop it after the first 2 weeks and its a low dose.

then nolva or tore for estrogen blocking purposes where essentially the aromatazation lowers which results in a raise in T levels.
tore being first choice for the better actions at the positive aspects of estrogen *BMD primarily
also nolva lowers GH and IGF 1 which isnt somehting good esp during PCT where we are trying to keep our gains.

[38jumper38]

If you run HCG during cycle, there is no need to run all way to pct. Usually pct is 2 weeks after last test shot. And HCG is only recommended prior test shots, for 2 weeks you don't shot test, don't need HCG.

[Lemonada8]

oops i should have said i only do prop for cycles and thats all i recommend :P

and i disagree with the dont shoot HCG when u dont shoot test.. what is the difference? other then you arent replenishing ur test shot.... u still have exogenous test in ur system, so ur still gonna be shut down.

[Lemonada8]

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