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12-03-2011, 07:58 PM #1New Member
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Needs recommendations for a AI and how to end a CYP cycle
I originally posted this in the TRT group and they wigged out. I need help with ending a cycle. I am doing Testostorne Replacment Therapy and I am uncertain how to drop back down to my 100 mg CYP per week.
The original message is as follows:
I hope I don't offend too many people by posting this thread in the TRT category. The reason I am posting it here is that I am currently doing TRT . My doctor has me on 100mg/.5 cc of Test CYP per week for life. His prescription has got my test levels up from 230, to 725 - 800 (depending on when I pin). I have my own (via an internet service) blood work done once a month. I have a stock pile of test CYP and refills until June 2012; my follow up with my doctor is in June, so I'm thinking what the hell.
I would Iike to run a cycle of CYP at higher levels (2 CC per week) than prescribed while adding Dianabol the first four weeks and a hardening compound the last four weeks. This will be my first cycle ever.
The issue is that all of my research on this site and others has turned up cycle information for men who are not on TRT . So, I several questions that are unanswered.
Another thing I should note is that my estrogen levels are high (51 pg/ml) while following my current prescription (100mg/.5 CC CYP per week). When I brought this up to my doctor he stated that I am under 53 pg/ml, so there is nothing to worry about (Gyno ), with that said I want to go from a half CC once a week, to one CC twice a week.
I am 41, 6' 2", 210 lbs. I would like to "bulk". I have been lifting for about three years. my diet is extremely clean. Currently my maintenance calorie intake is 3000, cutting is 2,600 (to lose 1 lb per week) and bulking is 4,000. The protein , carb and fat split depends on the current goal.
I do weight training 3 days a week and cardio (30 -40 minutes) 2 days a week.
Here are my questions:
How do I end a 12 week CYP/D-bol cycle ? Do I tapper my CYP from 400mg to 100mg over several weeks? If so, how many weeks should I tapper? When I get back to 100mg do I go four weeks and then start using the Reaction Nutrition EDGE mentioned below, or a better muscle hardening compound?
As mentioned above my estrogen is high, do I need to use Nolvadex throughout my entire cycle , start to finish? The issue with the Nolvadex is that I do not have a script.
Can I use something like Reaction Nutrition DRIVE AI to help lower my Estrogen, instead of Nolvadex ?
The DRIVE specs are; 6 Bromodione (25mg), Diindolylmethans/DIM (50mg), 4',7-Dihydroxyisoflvone (75mg), Agaricus Bisporus (175mg), Bioperine (5mg).
Also, when I finish the CYP cycle I would Iike to add a hardener, with the hope of not losing all of my CYP and Dianabol gains. I am looking at using the Element Nutrition EDGE, the active ingredient is 18mg of 2a-3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol. It is my understanding that this is a prohormone that is identical to HAVOC. My question is when do I start this, when my CYP is back down to 100mg (.5CC)? Is this a good hardener? Is there something better?
Here is my plan so far:
Week 00 100 mgs Test CYP (TRT )
Week 01 400 mgs Test CYP (1CC X2 week) Dianabol 20 mgs daily
Week 02 400 mgs Test CYP (1CC X2 week) Dianabol 20 mgs daily
Week 03 400 mgs Test CYP (1CC X2 week) Dianabol 20 mgs daily
Week 04 400 mgs Test CYP (1CC X2 week) Dianabol 20 mgs daily
Week 05 400 mgs Test CYP (1CC X2 week)
Week 06 400 mgs Test CYP (1CC X2 week)
Week 07 400 mgs Test CYP (1.25 CC X2 week)
Week 08 400 mgs Test CYP (1CC X2 week)
Week 09 400 mgs Test CYP (1CC X2 week) start tapering CYP?
Week 10 400 mgs Test CYP (1CC X2 week) start tapering CYP?
Week 11 400 mgs Test CYP (1CC X2 week) start tapering CYP?
Week 12 400 mgs Test CYP (1CC X2 week) start tapering CYP?
Week13 not sure how to end, tapper CYP add EDGE?
Week14 not sure how to end, tapper CYP add EDGE?
Week15 not sure how to end, tapper CYP add EDGE?
Week16 not sure how to end, tapper CYP add EDGE?
Bottom line, this is my first cycle . I am on TRT and I hope that someone has experience with cycling a "bulking stack " while on TRT . My goal is to maintain as much of my gains after I have stopped my bulking cycle and not totally screwing up my TRT . I am also open to any bulking cycle that uses test CYP as the base.
Your feedback will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Grind4it
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