I am just wondering what the effect would be if you ran a standard pct-100/100/50/50 clomid...40/40/20/20 nolva, if you did not use any gear. The reason I ask is what if you got fake gear but didnt know, and ran pct. I know this sounds crazy but im just curious. I just completed my first cycle, test only, and seemed to have good success. Gained about 13 pounds. Felt some increased libido i think, etc. But I also ran a perfect diet and training plan, with increased cal intake on very strict diet. SO, although I am happy with results, It is not mind blowing. I have strong libido as is so no crazy changes there. I just never got that feeling I hoped for of walking around like effing superman and feeling like im on... hard to explain, other than to say I second guess everything and over analyze until im blue in the face. I know a couple other people on same gear that were saying they felt it, extremely horny, gettn stronger blah blah... I didnt get blood checked and am now 2 weeks out and about to start pct. So far havent lost a pound and strength still going up weekly(minor but documentable via 1 rep over last week, etc). Anyway my OCD will not let me stop thinking about what effect pct would have if my gear was bunk and I made gains and felt a little better due to only perfect diet/training/sleep...