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    Did an incomplete pct and need further help !!!

    i had test levels of 270ng/dl nd did ptc for abut 15 days with clomid and nolva ...
    did blood work after 5 weeks ..
    NOW test levels are AT 460ng/dl

    ... so i am planning to do PCT again .. so what should be d cycle ... please help



    PS: will doing True mass bsn along with pct hinder the effects of the powder or will it help in anyway ???

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    Hello congrats on being GayAndProud, I am straight and proud LOL but wholeheartedly commend anyone for representing their lifestyle.

    On to the question...

    I am not sure exactly what you were asking but let me say that each cycle the ability to comeback fully gets tougher. Whether this is by a very small amount or a significant amount will be affected by the amount of time spent shut down as well as the quality of the previous PCT/PCT's. So what I am getting at is although a very short PCT may have worked well the first time on subsequent cycles particularly if they are longer or you use more severe forms of AAS like Tren /Deca etc. then you will need to incorporate full PCT's with proper timing ( number of days after cessation of AAS dependent mainly on the ester attached)

    Read and follow, Swifto's articles on PCT they will cover the amounts and timeframes needed for various cycles.

    I hope your first cycle was a test only cycle? You would do well to continue with test only cycles for a good while until you have specific needs for another compound.

    As far as using True mass or any other protein type powder during PCT its fine just as long as you are not using crazy amounts of it in place of real food as this can cause bloating which will lessen the bodies ability to recover as well as possibly interfering with absorption of the PCT chems.

    Best wishes,

    FFM

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    btw ... swifo suggested a pct of
    Tamox 20mg/ED for 6 weeks (40mg/ED week 1)
    Clomid 25mg/ED for 6 weeks (50mg/ED week 1)
    *Trbulus (Tribestan) for labido 500-1000mg/

    I did it only for 15 days then did the blood test... so it was incomplete ... so just need to knw should i do it the whole stretch again or should i shorten the duration
    Last edited by GayAndProud; 06-20-2012 at 03:38 AM.

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    Did you take any blood work before your cycle to see what your baseline test was at ?

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    nope ...

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    [QUOTE=GayAndProud;6042836]bro.. just created d id 4 fun ... nt gay


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    [QUOTE=Shol'va;6043874]
    Quote Originally Posted by GayAndProud View Post
    bro.. just created d id 4 fun ... nt gay

    Yeah I was pretty much done with him at that point.

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    hmm ... k dude ... any help ?

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    Maybe you really were not trying to be offensive and you are not a gay hater, however since you have made a gay joke as part of your identity you really might wanna change your screen name anyway and rejoin.

    We have several well respected OUT gay members and I am sure hundreds more who choose not to make it known, so having a joke at the expense of gays as part of your identity is not likely to win you many friends here.

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    sorry bro .. but i didnt knw that ... seriously ... dude any help ........please ...
    deleted it ...
    Last edited by GayAndProud; 06-20-2012 at 03:38 AM.

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