first cycle - pct - shutdown questions - my experience over past 15 weeks

[Christopher_UK]

Hi there people, I was just wanting to share my experience over the past 15 or so weeks and also my concerns and hoping some of you with more experience can shed some light on what might be happening just so I understand.

My first cycle started approx 15 weeks ago and was just an 8 week cycle of test prop. I followed this up with 4weeks of pct using clomid and nolva as instructed. Everything went fine during the whole 12 weejs and didnt have any problems with libido and was always horny. Around weeks 12-13 and onto weeks 14-15 which brings us upto now I have expetienced hot sweats which come on all of a sudden day and night. They only last 30-60 seconds and I sweat like mad during that time and this happens a dozen to two dozen times a day....like all the time. In fact I'm having one right now whilst writing this lol. Girlfriend calls them hot flushes and doesnt mind as its freezing in my country at the moment so she loves my hot flushes and always grabs hold of me every time it happens so not really that bad but bugs me on a night as they kinda disturb my sleep and wake me up some times.

The second thing is I litterally only just met this girl 17 days ago and we had sex first night no problem but then we had std check and waited two weeks and the tried to have sex sunday night and I couldnt do it which was obviously really embaressing as I've never had any problems my whole life.

So that is basically my story and was wanting to if this is normal what I've experienced and does everyone go through same thing with the hot flushes and lack of labido? Also is there anything I can do so I can have sex with new missus? Friend mentioned viagra, does that work?

p.s. wrote this thread from my s3 whilst at work so appolagies for any mistakes.

Thanks in advance.

[AsEpSiS]

I'd say its normal to have some erectile dysfunction during pct....it happened to me! Just give it some time and things will be ok.


By the way.....
How old are you? Is this your first cycle? What were the doses of pct meds? Did you run an A.I. or hcg during cycle?

[HardCorps84]

going thru this same EXACT shit right now...very frustrating

[Christopher_UK]

I'd say its normal to have some erectile dysfunction during pct....it happened to me! Just give it some time and things will be ok.


By the way.....
How old are you? Is this your first cycle? What were the doses of pct meds? Did you run an A.I. or hcg during cycle?

I'm 29 and yes first cycle mate, I didnt know to buy hcg and adex as this wasnt told to me at first when I made my first cycle post. They just said clomid and nolva. I've bought hcg and adex for my second cycle though now that I know what is needed.

Regarding the hot flushes, what cauaes this? Can you explain the science behind the hot sweats/flushes please?

[juice work]

I'm 29 and yes first cycle mate, I didnt know to buy hcg and adex as this wasnt told to me at first when I made my first cycle post. They just said clomid and nolva. I've bought hcg and adex for my second cycle though now that I know what is needed.

Regarding the hot flushes, what cauaes this? Can you explain the science behind the hot sweats/flushes please?

Hot flushes are generally related to hormonal imbalances. In women who are aging hot flashes are more common because their levels rise and fall and usually there is a simple fix for them like a plant estrogen birthcontrol pill. As a man you probably dont want to be taking femal birthcontrol though. I have had hot flashes too when im on fire and its 40 degrees outside and im freezin at the same time. Feels HORRIBLE! I noticed that if i run HCG at any higher than 250iu 2x week i have lots of hot flashes and sweat constantly. Anyhow back to you. Your body tries to maintain homeostasis which means you body adjusts what it needs to to even out your levels of test and estrogen. If test or est gets too high your body adds more of the other and tries to balance its self out. In your case, you completely turned off your test production and allowed for your estrogen levels to go through the roof! (more than likely) So although yes you completed your pct and turned back on your own natural production, your body is till trying to balance your test/estro scale back out to where it feels comfortable again. Hot flashes in steroid users are from rapid hormone changes in the body (usually, there are other factors that can affect your) they will sub side. I noticed that if i take P6 by cellucore when i come off that the ingredients in it helps me with that. (it raises your natty test levels and keeps a lid on estrogen at the same time and puts your libido through the roof ) So you can either wait it out or try and fight it but i wouldnt worry too much about it bro, you should be fine. Have you had your blood levels checked after cycle to see if you have returned to normal? if you go get a check find out what you E2 levels are also.
Hope i helped a bit

[Christopher_UK]

Hot flushes are generally related to hormonal imbalances. In women who are aging hot flashes are more common because their levels rise and fall and usually there is a simple fix for them like a plant estrogen birthcontrol pill. As a man you probably dont want to be taking femal birthcontrol though. I have had hot flashes too when im on fire and its 40 degrees outside and im freezin at the same time. Feels HORRIBLE! I noticed that if i run HCG at any higher than 250iu 2x week i have lots of hot flashes and sweat constantly. Anyhow back to you. Your body tries to maintain homeostasis which means you body adjusts what it needs to to even out your levels of test and estrogen. If test or est gets too high your body adds more of the other and tries to balance its self out. In your case, you completely turned off your test production and allowed for your estrogen levels to go through the roof! (more than likely) So although yes you completed your pct and turned back on your own natural production, your body is till trying to balance your test/estro scale back out to where it feels comfortable again. Hot flashes in steroid users are from rapid hormone changes in the body (usually, there are other factors that can affect your) they will sub side. I noticed that if i take P6 by cellucore when i come off that the ingredients in it helps me with that. (it raises your natty test levels and keeps a lid on estrogen at the same time and puts your libido through the roof ) So you can either wait it out or try and fight it but i wouldnt worry too much about it bro, you should be fine. Have you had your blood levels checked after cycle to see if you have returned to normal? if you go get a check find out what you E2 levels are also.
Hope i helped a bit

Thanks a lot for the info mate, thats just what I was looking for. To answer your question though, no I never got my blood work done but wish I had now. Am going to try get a doctors appointment and get it done this week to check.

One last thing though if anybody can answer. Is it ok for me to take viagra or something like that as I really want to have sex with new missus with no problems. Also do you reckon doctor will give me some?

Also when your shutdown can it come and go as last night I felt horny again and everything seemed to be working so little bit confused about that. Something defo feels wrong though as theres a strange feeling in my testicals.

[juice work]

Thanks a lot for the info mate, thats just what I was looking for. To answer your question though, no I never got my blood work done but wish I had now. Am going to try get a doctors appointment and get it done this week to check.

One last thing though if anybody can answer. Is it ok for me to take viagra or something like that as I really want to have sex with new missus with no problems. Also do you reckon doctor will give me some?

Also when your shutdown can it come and go as last night I felt horny again and everything seemed to be working so little bit confused about that. Something defo feels wrong though as theres a strange feeling in my testicals.

damn dude i wrote you a sick bit and it said auto saved then booted me off now its gone.

no a dr will not give you viagra you are too young with out tests, yes you can take it and cialis and be rock hard

P6 from gnc and other stores will also do the same while evening you homeostasis out too

[juice work]

a strange feeling in my testicals.

balls are expanding back to normal size and stretching back out

[Christopher_UK]

Thanks for all replies mate, never heard of cialis or p6, is that something I can just get from a health store or do I have to order them from my source?

P.s I spoke to my source snd he said he can get me 30 x viagra cheap. What you reckon?

[juice work]

Thanks for all replies mate, never heard of cialis or p6, is that something I can just get from a health store or do I have to order them from my source?

P.s I spoke to my source snd he said he can get me 30 x viagra for £XXWhat you reckon?

Please edit out that price, we cannot discuss prices on the forums due to rules in place. But as far as that price goes i would assume that it is not Pfizer Viagra but a chinese knock off, my prices in bulk are more expensive than that so i question the validity of it. Cialis is basically Viagro but from a different company and does not raise your BP like Viagra does.

P6 by Cellucore can be bought at your local supp. or vitamin shop or on line it isnt much and you get like 90 and tak like 4 a day depending on your weight so i weigh 218 lbs. at 6' tall with 11% bf and i would take 8-9 a day as per instructions. I think that is the safest bet

You can also buy Yohimbe root extract from the supp/vita store and take like 5x the reccomended dosage and you will be able to carve out a mountain with your cock. Plus it allows for multiple orgasms i have gone 7 times in 2 hours and that same day a total of 11 times, eventually, you just cum nothing out and a little white flag pops out and says "bang" on it

There are many things you can do, I know you mentioned you were std checked. i know that it would kill my hard on to be thinking im going to get a fn std from some girl so it can also be mental!


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[Christopher_UK]

I've eddited the post mate sorry about that, didnt even think. Well am going to try get some of the items you said from local health store tomortow. Hopefully they'll do the trick. Thanks for info. Regarding the std check it didnt really bothet me tbh and I wasnt worried about getting an std but I did think this could be a mentle thing because I was woeried if I could get hard or not and was stresding about it for two weeks whilst we waited for the std results to come which were clear in the end anyways.

You know when you get shutdown, can you have sex some days and not others or would you be shutdown constantly for like a month?

[juice work]

usually when your down you are down, you may have a spike here and there but more than likely just down

dont forget man, in bed, fear of failure ALWAYS leads to failure if you stress too much you restrict your blood vessels and ruin it your self just start out with foreplay a good 69 always gets me goin and im able to chop a tree down with it!

also, remember you can only get viagra and cialis from dr. or pharmacy. or good source, many sources do not have real viagra or cialis and get knock off shit that "is just as good" cough cough

even though youre not actily nervous about the std thing im sure it still affects you, it would affect any of us, shit is scary! so is looking limp for a new lady!

go get yohimbe bro, drops not pills, 5x dosage, and youll go bananas

[Christopher_UK]

Cheers mate, going to try my best to get it tomorrow and got doctors appointment for monday. Also do you know if they sell yohime in my country? We have a shop called holland and barret, am hoping they will sell it. Does it go by any other names also do you know?

Thanks in advance and thanks for all your helpso far!!!

[juice work]

sure bro no worries!, you should be able to get it any place that sells gym supps and vitamins so yes they will have it or GNC.com or something its totally common and legal