Pharm grade or research chem?

[atrainwright]

Debating which ancillaries to get for an upcoming cycle. I can easily get any pharm grade rx that I need or should I order thru a site like ar-r . Also I have an old bottle of liquid clomid, what's the shelf life on that?

Stats
6,7 240 lbs, 26 yo, 3 cycles, est 13-15 bf

Projected cycle
Test e 750mgs per week, 10 wks
Deca 600 mgs per week, 8 wks
Anadrol 100 mgs per day, 25 days

Pct-18 days after last pin
Clomid- 100, 50,50,25,25
Nolva- 40,40,20,20

On cycle
Caber .5 mgs e3d
I've only used adex before is a stronger a.i. Needed/necessary?
Hcg - never have used but will do further research and incorporate.
Liver- ill be getting liv52 and milk thistle
Vitamins- I stick with a multi and fish oils

[stevelifts]

I think shelf lfe is about 2 years.
I have use arr's liquid stuff without issue.

[OdinsOtherSon]

AR-R is GTG.

Might consider switching your PCT around to Clomid 100/50/50/50; Nolva 40/20/20/20/20. Extend the use of Nolva, not Clomid. Adex is the most commonly used AI usually at 0.25mg EOD as a start but may need adjustment, which usually begins at transitioning from EOD to ED at the same dosage. Aromasin is also a good product but many avoid it as it takes ~ a week for serum levels to come up where adex is pretty much immediate; however, aromasin is a suicide inhibitor and seems to not exert such a harsh effect on lipid profiles. With aromasin, usually start out at 10mg EOD and adjust from there if needed using the same principle as adex. An AI is generally considered as a needed item on cycle.

[atrainwright]

Awesome info, thank you

[atrainwright]

Why the extension of nolva over clomid? Shall I just extend them both?

[OdinsOtherSon]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Which-for-what

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ed-08-12-09%29

For some people clomid can be a little rough in that it can cause some anxiety issues (but usually only when it is dosed too high, ran too long or a combo of both) and some people, such as myself, have some eyesight issues and clomid is known for causing problems in this area too. It can be said that clomid may exhibit more "toxic" sides than nolva so that is, at least my personal, my rational for extending nolva instead of clomid...overall it seems to be a more gentle compound than clomid while still providing the same benefits. Clomid should still be included as it acts upon E2 receptors via a different mechanism than nolva, thereby give the user a more rounded and thorough therapy. My $0.02

[atrainwright]

Great insight and totally agree with you