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    Stop ALL Chems at end of AAS and wait for PCT? Or continue Ancillaries?

    Dang it, I thought I had references for this somewhere but I can't find the answer! Sorry if it's a giant repeat...

    I've been taking 12.5 mg Exemestane throughout my 10 week cycle of Test/Tren , which ended today.

    My P.C.T. is set to start in two weeks as:
    Exemestane 25mg/25mg ED
    Tamoxifen 40mg/40mg ED then 20mg/20mg/20mg/20mg ED

    THE QUESTION:
    Should I continue these next two weeks with 12.5 mg Exemestane as I have been doing the last 10 weeks? Or should I stop EVERYTHING for two weeks and then begin my P.C.T. fresh?

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    Oh, full and complete details of the cycle are here:

    Oatmeal69's 4th Cycle TEST-E / TREN-A Diary / Log

    Thanks!

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    Run your AI until PCT.

    I would drop the aromasin from PCT and add CLOMID to your NOLVA.
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    That's not really what I asked. ... ??
    And, Aromasin will do fine, I don't care for Clomid.

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    Are you planning to run Exemestane during PCT? I am confused. Run the Exemestane right up to pct and then start the tamox. I hope i am reading this right

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal69
    That's not really what I asked. ... ??
    And, Aromasin will do fine, I don't care for Clomid.
    Run AI until the start of PCT.^^^

    What else are you asking than?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal69
    That's not really what I asked. ... ??
    And, Aromasin will do fine, I don't care for Clomid.
    Why not use Clomid?

    "Clomiphene works by blocking estrogen at the pituitary. The pituitary sees less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means that the Leydig cells in the testis make more testosterone ."

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    [QUOTE=jim230027;6564075]Are you planning to run Exemestane during PCT? I am confused. Run the Exemestane right up to pct and then start the tamox. I hope i am reading this right[/QUOTE

    ^ This. If you're looking for another compound to compliment your tamox, why no go with tormifene if you have an aversion to clomid? Which I wouldn't blame you if you did. But agree with Jim on this one...run aromasin right up to pct and then drop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    Run your AI until PCT.

    I would drop the aromasin from PCT and add CLOMID to your NOLVA.
    Agree. OP, Youre going to tank your e2.

    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal69 View Post
    Dang it, I thought I had references for this somewhere but I can't find the answer! Sorry if it's a giant repeat...

    I've been taking 12.5 mg Exemestane throughout my 10 week cycle of Test/Tren , which ended today.

    My P.C.T. is set to start in two weeks as:
    Exemestane 25mg/25mg ED
    Tamoxifen 40mg/40mg ED then 20mg/20mg/20mg/20mg ED

    THE QUESTION:
    Should I continue these next two weeks with 12.5 mg Exemestane as I have been doing the last 10 weeks? Or should I stop EVERYTHING for two weeks and then begin my P.C.T. fresh?
    1. Since you're taking a nor-19 and testosterone , I would get blood tested to see where youre at with PGE2 and E2. You're being proactive with e2 but ignoring prostaglandins and progesterone. Based on what the test show remove the stane or lower the dose and frequency to 12.f or 6.25mg eod not ed.
    2. No.

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    Got any caber or prami on hand????

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Are you planning to run Exemestane during PCT?
    Yes.
    I should have added that this cycle was planned with EXTENSIVE viewing of Atomini's TREN thread. there's a TON of awesome and NEW information there.
    The idea was to run Exemestane during cycle at a half-dose, then full dose in PCT, along with Tamox.
    Quote Originally Posted by gymsoldier View Post
    Why not use Clomid?
    My research has shown it to be inferior to others like Exemestane, or Toremifene.
    However, Please, I do NOT want this to turn into a pissing match over what's better. I am not using Clomid, and let's leave it at that.
    Quote Originally Posted by OdinsOtherSon View Post
    ^ If you're looking for another compound to compliment your tamox, why no go with tormifene if you have an aversion to clomid? Which I wouldn't blame you if you did. But agree with Jim on this one...run aromasin right up to pct and then drop it.
    Good call. Did you read Atomini's thread? He and a few others had some good reasons for sticking with the same (Exemestane) right on through P.C.T. But, I'd be fine with switching to Toremifene.
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    Got any caber or prami on hand????
    No, keeping it simple. I will use a few extra vitamins, and Clen as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Java Man View Post
    You're being proactive with e2 but ignoring prostaglandins and progesterone.
    This is out dated information. You may want to read Swifto's excellent thread on PCT or Atomini's works... Essentially, if you control E2, you control Progesterone and prolactin by default.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    Run AI until the start of PCT.^^^
    What else are you asking than?
    Sorry, didn't see it, scrolled up too fast.

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    sounds good bro but i would not be concerned with running the ai into pct if i was you. Once the exogenous T has left your system there will be no extra to automatize so the tamoxifen will do its job and compete with the receptor in your mammary gland. Just my .02 Bro
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    Cool, I will continue @ 12.5 Exemestane until PCT, then
    Exemestane 25mg/25mg ED
    Tamoxifen 40mg/40mg ED then 20mg/20mg/20mg/20mg ED

    Wonder if I ought to extend the Exemestane out a couple more weeks at 12.5...

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