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    It is that time, I am not backing out until I start weeping like a bitch. Even then I'll try to pull through.

    If you seen my previous cycles, I started a d-bol and test cycle back in November, then bridged out with a TRT dosage into a high dose Tren , Prop and Mast cycle.

    I am currently on day four of no injectables. Started PCT meds today(50mg a day of Pharma Grade Clomid, 40mg a day of Nolvadex , also Pharma Grade). Upped my Cialis to 10mg a day. Planning to run the Nolva and Clomid for 6 weeks. 2-3 Weeks at high doses.

    Diet is staying close to the same, just cleaner and bit higher in calories.

    As of right now, I still feel really good as far as strength and just about everything else. Of course the pump is damn near gone. Yet, the main issue at this point is my dwindling libido, it just plain out sucks. I am trying to figure out what else I can do to counteract this a bit, but it sure is not the same. < If anyone has anything that they have experience with helping this shit out, let me know. I will be putting up a post on this shortly, just to at least have a better understanding any possible help with this shitty issue.

    Here is a pic of day 1 after last shot for future reference.

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    Did you run hcg during the 7 months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027
    Did you run hcg during the 7 months?
    Only during the heavy dose parts. 4 months out of 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Only during the heavy dose parts. 4 months out of 7.
    Looking solid bro... How long ago did you run the hcg ? Hopefully towards the end of the run?

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    Yup, ran HCG @ 250iu 2x per week for the 1st 75 days or so, then 250iu 2x per week for the last 60 days. Which was the whole Tren Cycle, all the way to the end.

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    Day 2 of PCT meds, day 5 of no shots.


    This is nothing short of shit. . . .


    If I don't take it one day @ a time I will jump back on. Guess the farther you get up, the worse the fall.

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    Day 3 of PCT meds, day 6 of no shots.


    Well fvck, I jumped all of my meds. Running 100mg of Clomid along with 60mg of Nolva. Also pounding 5000mg of Vitamin C & 5000mg of Tribulus.

    I feel great, not like on the sauce by any means but real good. Libido jumped back within a day - Maybe it's some BS sugar pill effect, but I don't care - It works for me.


    Weight dropped a pound, right @ 201 as of this morning.

    My diet is in complete overdrive, I eat then I eat, then I eat again. Found myself last night starving and ate a pound of straight grilled chicken. Keeping the diet clean, no filler here - Filler equals fatness. < Last thing I'm looking for.

    Hit the gym yesterday, shoulders and flabs. Still getting in a awesome workout, with a preworkout drink of course.
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    Great to hear bro.! I am sure you already know this but training during pct i would focus on compound movement and get in and out with 45 minutes or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027
    Great to hear bro.! I am sure you already know this but training during pct i would focus on compound movement and get in and out with 45 minutes or so.
    Completely agree, potent quick workouts. I hit an hour yesterday and I felt that it was a tad much.

    Working out now is nothing compared to when I was on that much sauce.

    Also damn near no cardio. Maybe once or twice a week for a light 20 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Completely agree, potent quick workouts. I hit an hour yesterday and I felt that it was a tad much.

    Working out now is nothing compared to when I was on that much sauce.

    Also damn near no cardio. Maybe once or twice a week for a light 20 minutes.
    Your on the right path bro... Keep the food clean and just make sure you are maintaining enough calories to support the muscle you have put on

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027

    Your on the right path bro... Keep the food clean and just make sure you are maintaining enough calories to support the muscle you have put on
    Exactly the plan, my diet now is damn near 100% while eating just at or above TDEE.

    From what I have seen in myself and shit on here. PCT is the most important time to keep everything in check. I don't want yo gain fat & I want to minimize LBM loss.


    Still feeling real good though. Can't tell if it's in my head or all of the meds I am taking. But, either way I feel damn near as good as while on my heavy ass cycle. Main differences are, sleeping is much easier and better, bacne is 90% gone, shoulders don't ache from QD shots - only true downside is the pump is gone & I feel normal.

    Lost another pound, weighing in right @ 200 flat.

    Seems to be water loss, bi's are still right under 17.5" cold and waist is barely over 33".

    Kicking the diet even harder into gear, all clean - no filler. Started creatine too, maybe it will help retain some water within the muscle.
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    Hang in there buddy and just take it a day ay at a time!
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    Sounds great Samson! Hang in there...things will improve! Really good to hear you're feeling so much better!!
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    Thanks yo. . . Feeling better sure is nice.


    Hit the gym today, 50 minutes flat and I was beat up. Still pushing solid weight though, hit 100 pounds dumbbells on a incline without any real hesitation.

    Just interesting to see how i feel compared to being on a bit of sauce. Best way to describe it is I feel normal without that super extra kick. But, I still get a hell of a pump from a solid heavy workout.

    Just like any drug, if it makes you feel good - you just want more and stronger shit.

    Too bad we're only human, this shit along with other "meds" do put a hell of a wear on the body.


    It's been one full week since my last shot. Main thing I don't miss is the constant needle piercing my skin every morning. Yet, the feeling from it is almost worth it.


    What's kinda fvcked now, is that I have cycles planned for the next year. Damn drugs. . . . LoL


    I'm pretty sure I'm hooked for life, but this still needs to be done semi safely. A 7 month cycle on any amount of sauce is not the way to go.

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    Well, don't know what to say about my food intake. This is the first day that I have not dropped weight. I put down 4k in calories including a midnight feeding.

    How in the hell am I not gaining weight is above and beyond me. Solid food all day and I don't gain, word.

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    Strength is still nothing short of bad ass. Squating 365 x5 today along with 365 x2 on deads. Felt like I could push a bit more, but laid back a little to see how I react to the high weights.

    Still feeling solid as fvck, but I do miss the pump. Throwing back a little more in my PWO drink and I still get a great workout in.

    So far so good. Now I am really reconsidering hitting more tren in the future. It made me feel shitty and I didn't even realize it. My sleep is so much better now being off of it for bit.

    Great substance but the sides are some shit. I really flipped my opinion on this. I think I rather pump higher volume of a weaker substance than have to feel so odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Strength is still nothing short of bad ass. Squating 365 x5 today along with 365 x2 on deads. Felt like I could push a bit more, but laid back a little to see how I react to the high weights.

    Still feeling solid as fvck, but I do miss the pump. Throwing back a little more in my PWO drink and I still get a great workout in.

    So far so good. Now I am really reconsidering hitting more tren in the future. It made me feel shitty and I didn't even realize it. My sleep is so much better now being off of it for bit.

    Great substance but the sides are some shit. I really flipped my opinion on this. I think I rather pump higher volume of a weaker substance than have to feel so odd.
    Maybe you were just running to much tren? You have to find the sweet spot. I am loving the updates bro and glad to hear pct is going smooth!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Maybe you were just running to much tren? You have to find the sweet spot. I am loving the updates bro and glad to hear pct is going smooth!!

    Oh, I was - 100mg Qd with 100mg Qd of Mast, along with 70mg of Prop.

    The no results shit got old, I wanted to feel something at least. And that I did, straight mad cow disease of the Tren . . .lol


    The positive results are pretty cool though.


    Yeah, I'll keep this log up since no one really gets deep into how their PCT is going specially of a big cycle. It's just like a time for mourning or some shit.
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    Another day without the sauce. . . . Feel a little shitty today due to no sleep, none of this is PCT related. As far as the process of coming off, couldn't be any smoother as of right now.

    So far the only thing I notice is my vascularity is not the same. Weighing in at 201 as of this morning.

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    I've been following this thread but haven't posted anything. Glad to see youre keeping the drive. A lot of people get discouraged and stop working out and or eating correctly after a long time 'on'. As if lifting is pointless without it. I think it's one reason of many that we don't see more huge freaks walking around.

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    How's the libido doing if that's not too personal?

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    I'm damn good so far, I don't know what part of my PCT combo is the most help, but I feel great.

    Get wood damn close to as good as while on. How, I don't know - But, I am totally okay with it.

    I do feel like ass going to the gym, the pump is just gone. But, it's all good. . . About 4-5 months and I'm back on more sauce.

    Really does make me think on how long I can PCT after cycles before just going the TRT route. But, who knows. I know it's not the best idea for the long run. Plus I have gotten some good info from bigger guys who say the still PCT out and not just stay on. Which really gives me more hope.

    Although TRT is not out of the question. My body is just so much more forgiving while on synthetic test. I can miss big meals for a few days and not shed a pound. While all natty seems to take way more maintenance.

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    Keep trucking bro and I wouldn't consider trt if I was you unless you get to a point that you can't recover.

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    I feel that on the TRT part, but one: I don't want to lose my gains & 2, being on sauce is so much better.

    But, pinning for life does seem a bit wack unless it is fully necessary.

    Like I said before, cycle on cycle off. See where the levels are, if they are solid no need to even think about TRT.

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    Its pretty impressive how you've managed to find a sweet spot in your PCT after such a long cycle and are doing so well on it. Hat's off to you bro!! Keep it up. I'm following too!!
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    Feel like a something out of a comic book when cycling. Its really hard not to continue and take that necessary break. Especially when your next cycle is already waiting in that cool, dark corner. I'm glad you're sticking with it and doing well. I think that's the only way to ensure solid gains... Go natty for a while.
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    The plan is just to maintain, I look in the mirror & look the same, step in the scale - same weight.

    Yet, I feel all piled out. Best way I can put it -it's just the zero pump feeling 24x7

    Who knows how much of this is just a mindfuk.

    Oh well, coasting on through. 10 weeks to go to blood work.
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    Still feeling sauced at times, I just get good pumps randomly. Today's chest workout was intense, my lifts are just so much better now. Inline bench 225x6 < I know I can push more with a spotter.



    I'm still waiting to get worse. . . . Usually week 3 > is when shit starts really sucking.

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    Just keep thinking about how your system is cleaning itself up internally. Cholesterol and bp, liver and kidneys, gonadal axis. Getting better than prime so you can do it again without worrying about cumulative internal effects.
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    Oh yeah, I know. Our system takes a beating - It's like adding nitrous to an engine. < it's juiced. . . Under pressure shit pops.

    I am trying to be safe to a point. But, I want more LBM, it doesn't come easy.

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    What are you gonna run for your next cycle ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChipChelios
    What are you gonna run for your next cycle ?
    Well. . . .

    Planned so far: A-50's 2-4 weeks
    Tren E @200mg 12-14 weeks
    Deca @400mg 12-14 weeks
    Test E @700mg 12-14 weeks

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    Weighing in @ 203 today. The creatine seems to be doing its usual shit, giving me a tad bit of water retention.

    Arms are up almost a 1/4", but I just feel softer and squishier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> >
    Weighing in @ 203 today. The creatine seems to be doing its usual shit, giving me a tad bit of water retention.

    Arms are up almost a 1/4", but I just feel softer and squishier.
    Keep with it bro you are cruising right through pct.
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    Today is 2 weeks since my last shot of prop & mast.

    Shit sure isn't like on juice, but still pretty damn good.

    Weighing in again right 203 pounds.

    P.S. Anyone wanna comment on my next run, feel free. I don't feel like I need to start a whole separate thread for it.

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    How much time are you planning to take off before your next run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027
    How much time are you planning to take off before your next run?
    Starting November 1st

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    Hey bro, just got a chance to read about your Pct journey. Sounds like the biggest problem is the mental game. Stay with it and just keep listening to your body and make small adjustments. When it doubt, always look back at where you were when you started. Next cycle looks tasty!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Brown
    Hey bro, just got a chance to read about your Pct journey. Sounds like the biggest problem is the mental game. Stay with it and just keep listening to your body and make small adjustments. When it doubt, always look back at where you were when you started. Next cycle looks tasty!!!!
    Feel that 4 sure

    Next cycle does sound beastly

    Deads & squats today

    Still pulling the same weight, or damn close Deads - 365x2 < no problems. 315x6 before the 365

    Squats were a little weak, but I did them after Deads. 315x5 no probs

    Focusing on the big 3 & abs. No other major isolation. Some, but not full force.
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    Just back in from the gym. Still lifting the same shit.

    Weighing in this morning right @ 200 pounds.

    Onto week 3 we go. . .Seriously if I had placebo to replace the juice, I would barely notice a difference if at all.

    I am really surprised that I still feel this solid right now.

    Bawls are almost back to og size too. Nothing beats pharma grade PCT meds.


    But, I do have my shit moments. I just feel no pump and depressed randomly. When it happens, I just wait it out. From what I understand this is a typical side effect from the clomid.

    Oh well

    No shrink so far
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