How's this as my first cycle & PCT?

**lla23** · 07-13-2013, 01:40 AM

Hey guys, what do u think of this first cycle of mine? is the PCT alright ? Do feel free to let me know if i need to make any changes.. Thank You.

Phase 1-
500 mgs of test e weekly,
1st 8 weeks reload (250 mgs injection twice a week)
Along with HCG (250 i.u.'s injection twice a week)

Deload -
250 mgs of test e weekly,
2 weeks (125 mgs injection twice a week)
HCG (250 i.u.'s injection twice a week)

Phase 2 -
750 mgs of test e weekly
2nd 8 weeks reload (375 mgs injection twice a week)
Along HCG (250 i.u.'s injection twice a week)

Last week of cycle start
PCT for 3 weeks
Novaldex
40 mg ed everyday 1st week,

20 mg ed everyday for the next 2 weeks

**kronik420** · 07-13-2013, 02:58 AM

bad first cycle...

stats??

**lla23** · 07-13-2013, 05:08 AM

Why is it bad? I'm Asian 32 yrs old and 10-12 % bf.. Been training for 9 yrs...

Originally Posted by kronik420

bad first cycle...

stats??

**kronik420** · 07-13-2013, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by lla23

Why is it bad? I'm Asian 32 yrs old and 10-12 % bf.. Been training for 9 yrs...

weight?

1st cycle go with test e/c for 12 weeks @ 500mg/week, +AI +HCG +PCT

**lla23** · 07-13-2013, 05:11 AM

Pls explain or define why is it bad? so i could learn something out of it..

My bad... I'm standing 168m and weighing 71.60 KG..

Originally Posted by kronik420

weight?

1st cycle go with test e/c for 12 weeks @ 500mg/week, +AI +HCG +PCT

**kronik420** · 07-13-2013, 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by lla23

Pls explain or define why is it bad? so i could learn something out of it..

My bad... I'm standing 168m and weighing 71.60 KG..

18 weeks for a 1st cycle is just too long... the shorter the cycle, the better it is for you and your health..

and the slingshot type cycle you proposed is more for advanced users...

1st cycle keep it simple!

**OdinsOtherSon** · 07-13-2013, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by kronik420

weight?

1st cycle go with test e/c for 12 weeks @ 500mg/week, +AI +HCG +PCT

This is what you're looking for....

**lla23** · 07-13-2013, 09:52 AM

Bro... How about u? Mind sharing what's your experience and opinion ?

Originally Posted by OdinsOtherSon

This is what you're looking for....

**crazy mike** · 07-13-2013, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by kronik420

weight?

1st cycle go with test e/c for 12 weeks @ 500mg/week, +AI +HCG +PCT

Originally Posted by OdinsOtherSon

This is what you're looking for....

I agree. My experience is doing aas since 81' took some years of and now back cycling. I have the experience to SEE what the first cycle potential is whit the above recommendation and anything over and above will net no more gains. Your body will do all it can do with the Test e at a stable 500mg wk. You will not probably gain anything more and it is not good for you body. Read up on why it's not good. I think I gave you some good solid advice coming from my long time experience with others as well as myself. ...crazy mike

**lla23** · 07-13-2013, 10:13 AM

Mind sharing with me base on ur usage in e past bro?

Originally Posted by crazy mike

I agree. My experience is doing aas since 81' took some years of and now back cycling. I have the experience to SEE what the first cycle potential is whit the above recommendation and anything over and above will net no more gains. Your body will do all it can do with the Test e at a stable 500mg wk. You will not probably gain anything more and it is not good for you body. Read up on why it's not good. I think I gave you some good solid advice coming from my long time experience with others as well as myself. ...crazy mike

**OdinsOtherSon** · 07-13-2013, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by lla23

Bro... How about u? Mind sharing what's your experience and opinion ?

What if that is my experience???

**lla23** · 07-13-2013, 10:26 AM

Haha I thought u were gonna share ur long story about it...

Originally Posted by OdinsOtherSon

What if that is my experience???

**crazy mike** · 07-13-2013, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by lla23

Mind sharing with me base on ur usage in e past bro?

What do you want to know. I've done many different compounds. Test E, Test P, TNE, Masteron P, Tbol, Winstrol oral and injectable, Dbol , Tren E and Acetate. I've done a wide range of dosages, 250mg wk and up to 1,800mg wk. Stacked un-stacked, bulking and cutting as well as show prep and thru the shows.

Now if that's not enough experience I don't know what is. I've owned a gym, coached, and trained competitors on and off cycles. Now I 'm thru bragging, but you asked and that it.
I have a feeling this thread is not going anywhere. So have I answered your Q 's ? ...crazy mike

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**lla23** · 07-13-2013, 11:06 AM

Chill man... I know u hv a wide experience in this.. Just wanna keep my mind open and learn stuff from people here...

Originally Posted by crazy mike

What do you want to know. I've done many different compounds. Test E, Test P, TNE, Masteron P, Tbol, Winstrol oral and injectable, Dbol , Tren E and Acetate. I've done a wide range of dosages, 250mg wk and up to 1,800mg wk. Stacked un-stacked, bulking and cutting as well as show prep and thru the shows.

Now if that's not enough experience I don't know what is. I've owned a gym, coached, and trained competitors on and off cycles. Now I 'm thru bragging, but you asked and that it.
I have a feeling this thread is not going anywhere. So have I answered your Q 's ? ...crazy mike

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**lla23** · 07-13-2013, 11:09 AM

So bro... Have u ever work with clients that wants to turn pro and u guide them thru when they r even a rookie and becoming a pro competitor?

Originally Posted by crazy mike

What do you want to know. I've done many different compounds. Test E, Test P, TNE, Masteron P, Tbol, Winstrol oral and injectable, Dbol , Tren E and Acetate. I've done a wide range of dosages, 250mg wk and up to 1,800mg wk. Stacked un-stacked, bulking and cutting as well as show prep and thru the shows.

Now if that's not enough experience I don't know what is. I've owned a gym, coached, and trained competitors on and off cycles. Now I 'm thru bragging, but you asked and that it.
I have a feeling this thread is not going anywhere. So have I answered your Q 's ? ...crazy mike

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**crazy mike** · 07-13-2013, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by lla23

So bro... Have u ever work with clients that wants to turn pro and u guide them thru when they r even a rookie and becoming a pro competitor?

I just got back from the gym.
Answer is NO. I haven't trained anyone since 1989 and they were competing on an armature level with no other intentions. No pros. ...crazy mike

**lla23** · 07-14-2013, 01:58 AM

What do u think of HMG bro?

Originally Posted by crazy mike

I just got back from the gym.
Answer is NO. I haven't trained anyone since 1989 and they were competing on an armature level with no other intentions. No pros. ...crazy mike