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    Question so much information need some help with serm/ai

    so i am going on a 500 mg/week test e cycle only for 12 weeks.

    ordered letro,evista, and clomid

    i am going to use letro as my a.i during my cycle at a low dose (.25 EOD weeks 1-12) . Might use hcg weeks 8-14
    now as far as pct goes i could use some help. i have gotten evista and clomid. should i take both of these SERMS together? or just clomid? do i need anything else?

    i should stop using the letro for pct correct?

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    I suggest running hcg through the whole cycle right up to pct. 200-250 iu 2 x EW. I have no experience with evista? A standard Clomid nolvadex pct would work just fine though. Clomid 100/50/50/50 nolvadex 40/40/20/20 if the sides from Clomid are to much lower the dose during week one. As for letro as an AI yes you absolutely should run an AI on cycle right up to pct. some like using letro and for some it's to strong. Really you have choices between letro, aromasin and arimidex to name a few. I prefer aromasin at 12.5 mg Ed

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    thanks, so let me know if this looks good

    weeks 1-12 = test e 250 mg twice a week. Letro .25mg EOD. HCG 250 iu 2x per week

    week 12-14=letro .25mg EOD. HCG 250iu 2x/week

    weeks 15-20 Clomid 100/50/50/50. Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

    any suggestions?

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    The cycle looks good and pct as well. I don't have experience with running letro as an AI so you will have to do some homework there. As I stated before I prefer aromasin for on cycle AI at 12.5 Ed or arimidex at .25 eod. Letro is very strong and can crush your estrogen if not used correctly. My guess is .25 Eod might be to much. How prone are you to estrogen sides and what ai's have you run in the past?
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    this would be my first cycle so i'm not sure how prone i am to estrogen side effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry w
    this would be my first cycle so i'm not sure how prone i am to estrogen side effects.
    Is letro your only AI on hand?

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    it is. but i was thinking it might be too intense so i might get some aromasin or arimidex then if gyno is bad then stop that ai and use the letro because it is so potent

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    Jim's on point here. Get adex to use. It will be much simpler for you in the long run. Make sure you have everything in hand before you start your cycle. I'd also suggest full BW ahead of time including a hormone panel, LH, FSH etc. This way you'll have good baselines to gauge the success of your pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry w
    it is. but i was thinking it might be too intense so i might get some aromasin or arimidex then if gyno is bad then stop that ai and use the letro because it is so potent
    I think you will be happy with the results of aromasin or arimidex . It's nice to have letro on hand just in case.

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    what do you think about using hcg weeks 10-14 as apposed to the whole cycle? would there be a benefit to this or no? ive seen some people suggest using hcg on the whole cycle, others say just between last pin and pct, and others say use starting it at the mid or 3/4 way through the test cycle. as well i have some musclepharm daa on hand as well do you think i should use this at anytime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry w
    what do you think about using hcg weeks 10-14 as apposed to the whole cycle? would there be a benefit to this or no? ive seen some people suggest using hcg on the whole cycle, others say just between last pin and pct, and others say use starting it at the mid or 3/4 way through the test cycle. as well i have some musclepharm daa on hand as well do you think i should use this at anytime?
    I would run the hcg the whole cycle as I can't see why you would want your testies shut down for any period of time.

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    thanks, youve been very helpful with all my questions. will post my supps/cycle when i start!

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry w
    thanks, youve been very helpful with all my questions. will post my supps/cycle when i start!
    I look forward to reading it

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